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Everyone knows I like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Well my favorite choice for jelly used to be Polaner Fruit Spread. But they now only offer it with Fiber added. Well the fiber is an additive Fibersol:

digestion resistant maltodextrin Also known as Fibersol a joint venture between Archer Daniels Midland and Matsutani Chemical Industry

http://www.adm.com/en-US/products/food/ ... fault.aspx

Here is the patent for it Indigestible Dextrin: http://www.patents.com/indigestable-dex ... 64652.html
"An indigestible dextrin characterized in that the dextrin is prepared by heat-treating potato starch with addition of hydrochloric acid...."

Hydrochloric acid, are they serious? No more of this stuff please. If I want fiber I'll use Metamucil, or eat some twigs.

mountainpass just wants a simple fruit spread. :soapbox:
 

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Same stuff your stomach makes on it's own, and very necessary for digestion. Won't hurt ya'. Jeff. :wink:
 

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CountryGun said:
Same stuff your stomach makes on it's own, and very necessary for digestion. Won't hurt ya'. Jeff.
That's easy for you to say living down on the farm, I bet your wife made you some blackberry jam(probably enough to see you through the winter). I just saying why are all these companies adding stuff?
 

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mountainpass said:
I just saying why are all these companies adding stuff?
Because most of us no longer live on the farm, and can use the added stuff.
 

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I'm right there with you, man. I saw that on the jar and said... now who came up with the idea to add fiber to preserves? Isn't there enough in the bread already? And calcium in orange juice? Is it so hard to just leave well enough alone?
 

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Because most of us no longer live on the farm, and can use the added stuff.
It wasn't added on the farm.
Yall are missing the point I don't want anything added to my food. Orange juice used to just be orange juice, now I have to stand in the store and read every carton.

Now they are adding high fructose corn syrup to honey.
 

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I wish. My wife grew up on a farm in Nebraska, and I don't think she ever made jam or jelly. That's a crime, isn't it? She is a decent cook though, and a keeper.

Drink Coke? Try dropping a nail in a Coke overnight. Never done it, but I'm told it'll make you give that up too. :lol:
 

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Americans consume about 350 million pounds of honey per year, but just 150 million pounds are made domestically, creating a booming market for importers and ample temptation to cut pure honey with additives such as corn syrup that are far less expensive to produce.
I'm betting the fiber additive in the jelly is less expensive than what it replaces.
 

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Fact panels, package labels, nutrition reports. There has to be a better way to make decisions about the foods you eat. Now there is: the NuValâ„¢ Nutritional Scoring System.

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This is becoming clearer.
 

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It would be nice to know the source of the fiber. Some of our food fiber comes from the fine cotton fibers gleaned from cotton seeds. Yuck! I'd be more concerned about that than the acid.
 

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When I worked for a company that disposed of/recycled hazardous materials I was amazed by some of the toxic wastes/left over materials that I picked up from food companies.

One of my favorites was the spearmint flavoring from Wrigleys that went past it's "use by" date. It was classified as flammable.
 

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Drink Coke? Try dropping a nail in a Coke overnight. Never done it, but I'm told it'll make you give that up too. :lol:
:lol: indeed. The acidity of soft drinks is nothing compared to the hydrochloric acid your body produces in your stomach, which has a pH of around 2.
 

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"... prepared by heat-treating potato starch with addition of hydrochloric acid...."
The key part here being "prepared with" just because hydrochloric acid is used in the preparation of something doesn't mean that the acid forevermore becomes a part of that product. You might be surprised at the seemingly deadly chemical that are used to prepare and process foods yet don't become a part of the food themselves.

I have dropped a nail into Coke overnight, and Pepsi too. The results are as impressive as the 'flechettes for self-defense' idea.
 

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mountainpass said:
jsmn4vu said:
Because most of us no longer live on the farm, and can use the added stuff.
It wasn't added on the farm.
Yall are missing the point I don't want anything added to my food. Orange juice used to just be orange juice, now I have to stand in the store and read every carton.

Now they are adding high fructose corn syrup to honey.
Why would they add that to honey? Seriously? Stuff is the magic food of nature....naturally sweet, has some good stuff in there that will keep you from getting sick, and it literally will last forever if sealed properly.
 

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One of my favorites was the spearmint flavoring from Wrigleys that went past it's "use by" date. It was classified as flammable.
High oil content - made that way by Mother Nature, though concentrated by ???
 

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livesounder said:
Adam5 said:
One of my favorites was the spearmint flavoring from Wrigleys that went past it's "use by" date. It was classified as flammable.
High oil content - made that way by Mother Nature, though concentrated by ???
The flavoring is made by extracting alcohol from the spearmint leaves. The spearmint alcohol is very flamable.
 

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livesounder said:
Adam5 said:
One of my favorites was the spearmint flavoring from Wrigleys that went past it's "use by" date. It was classified as flammable.
High oil content - made that way by Mother Nature, though concentrated by ???
The flavoring is made by extracting alcohol from the spearmint leaves. The spearmint alcohol is very flamable.
The leaves have no natural alcohol content. Alcohol is, after all - being a volatile - highly evaporative. Alcohol IS used in the extraction process, however.

(As I can attest after having made many, many, many a mint julep).
 

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mountainpass said:
jsmn4vu said:
Because most of us no longer live on the farm, and can use the added stuff.
It wasn't added on the farm.
Yall are missing the point I don't want anything added to my food. Orange juice used to just be orange juice, now I have to stand in the store and read every carton.

Now they are adding high fructose corn syrup to honey.
Wow, what would be the point of all that? I watch what I eat pretty closely, I never though to look out for stuff like that.
 

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It would be nice to know the source of the fiber.
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Dear mountainpass,

Thank you for your correspondence regarding our Polaner All Fruit brand.

In speaking with Polaner All Fruit users in 2008 and 2009, many told us they are not getting enough fiber in their diets. The response among these current All Fruit users to the concept of taking Polaner All Fruit and adding natural dietary fiber to the recipe was positive. The majority told us that if the taste and texture could remain the same, they’d prefer a new version that provides a good source of fiber in every spoonful. We often heard â€" “you can’t get enough fiber.â€

The maltodextrin we use in Polaner All Fruit with Fiber is a soluble fiber produced under the brand name Fibersol-2. Derived from nature, it is a concentrated form of soluble dietary fiber and remains undigested by enzymes of the human digestive system.

Fibersol-2 is produced from cornstarch, a completely natural product, using a method that results in a digestion-resistant maltodextrin. This non-digestible portion of the maltodextrin is tasteless and odorless. It is extracted and then added to Polaner All Fruit to provide the fiber benefit.

Fibersol-2 contains a very small portion of sugar (<0.5 g total sugar per serving) making it perfect for sugar modified foods including true sugar free foods. Based on FDA regulation, any product using this type of maltodextrin is considered sugar free.

We regret that you did not share the positive response to our reformulated All Fruit we’ve seen from others.

I do want to assure you that your comments will be forwarded to our marketing and formulation groups. Maybe with consumer input such as yours, the original products may be brought back. That is why we appreciate you taking the time to contact us. We are always striving to improve and service our consumers
I guess I'm buying Smuckers.
 
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