Panama City Sherriff Cracks Down on Illegal Immigrants

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by jgullock, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. jgullock

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287101,00.html

    Pretty effective. Looks like someone is trying to enforce the law.

     
  2. Tinkerhell

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    Lots of different thoughts here.
    Foremost is WTF are some of those people thinking?!! (retorical, they're lefties so they aren't really thinking in any logical manner...)

    Why? These aren't immigrants. They are ILLEGAL immigrants. The legal guys are sitting on the construction site watching their illegal buddies do the 100 yard dash and laughing at em. At least I would be. Of course I'd have already called the cops on their arse if I knew they were illegal.

    =D> :cheers:

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    Well if you weren't breaking the law & helping others to do the same then this wouldn't be a problem now would it.

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    What intimidation? I bet the legal immigrants aren't intimidated at all. I bet they just sit by & enjoy the extra 30 minute break.

    I find it affective, refreshing & innovative.

    I think Ms Shore and Mr Stevenson should take a look at the name of the company on their paycheck.
    Mexican American Legal Defense Fund
    American Civil Liberties Union
    These people are not Americans, they are not trying to become Americans and they are not doing anything except harming Americans. These two groups should be working to get these illegals out of the country. They should be helping the sheriff. :evil:


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    Well tough shyte Jose. You are breaking OUR laws. Go the h#ll back to Mexico so you can be with you parents & your child and either go through the proper channels to work in America legally or work to fix your own damn country.

    \:D/


    Say what you mean Louis.
    Here, I'll correct your statement for you:
    Awww, I'm soooo sorry your slave labor is being forced out of town. What a shame. Guess everyone will just have to pay a bit more to get the work done, won't they? Shouldn't affect you too bad because you will just pass the cost on to your client. If we get rid of all of that slave labor so that your competitors also have to use legal immigrates for work then everyone's costs will be similar and you won't be losing out. Stop complaining & start helping get rid of the illegals & then everything will be back on par and all the expense here will go back to the customers not you.
     

  3. M249

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    I tell ya what, America has some amazing Sheriffs. Wyoming, Montana, Arizona, and now, Florida. What a great damned country! I wish I could cast votes for these guys.

    I often wonder why the Socialists aren't screaming about the "victimization" of these illegals by the employers.

    ETA:
    I think you're half-right. They are illegal aliens.

    Isn't an immigrant a person who moves with the intent of obtaining nationality? Concerning those from Mexico specifically, it has been my experience that criminal aliens' first loyalty is to Mexico, and their second is to the dollar... or maybe the other way around :p
     
  4. Sine Nomen

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    From the other Camp

    I have to hand it to the Cops on this one, it sounds like an innovative and effective method.

    :rant: I'm getting really tired of people fussing about aliens, legal or illegal. These folks are here WORKING trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. Good for them. As to the ones that are here without the proper papers, I don't think that makes them bad people or genuine criminals any more that I think any of you are contemptible bandits if you ILLEGALLY walk into your local Sonny's with a pistol buried under your jacket or left in your glove box. I believe that the LAW is wrong, not the people that live in defiance of it. :rant:
     
  5. wsweeks2

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    The problem I have with the illegals is that they come here and their kids go to school for free and have free health care while we can't even provide for our own. When homelessness is no longer an issue and every American citizen can have decent affordable health care, then we can look at helping the rest of the world with their problems.
     
  6. Tinkerhell

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    I don't have any problem with anyone wanting to better themselves. That's a huge part of what this country is founded upon. BUT as noted above, these aren't situations where you have a single person coming into the country assimilating making money trying to better themselves. A large portion of these folks are coming in, bringing relatives & children with them, taking adavantage of our stupid social support system, bringing violence drugs & gang activity and in the very short but ultimate end taking money from me. They are indirectly hurting ME and YOU and every other legal citizen that pays taxes and supports the community.

    THAT is what I have a problem with & why I say deport every single person that is not here legally. I don't care how but seal the border & then start purging the country of those that are not here legally.
     
  7. Sine Nomen

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    How is it that the illegals "have free health care" but not "every American citizen can have decent affordable health care" ?

    It's really not that hard to make a good life here. If a poor, uneducated, non-english speaker can get by working in some crappy job for petty cash, there's no good reason a native born American bum cannot do the same. I'm not an advocate of "helping the rest of the world with their problems" but I see noting wrong with letting them come here and working to help themselves.
     
  8. gsusnake

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    It's quite simple.

    Go to your local Emergency Room.

    Give false demographic information to the admissions clerk. Most people find that giving the address for a local church, civic figure, or the police station works.

    Receive free emergency care under EMTALA. Never see a bill.



    of course, if your local hospital is like us, they have a list of commonly used "fake" addresses posted and will know to attempt to get your real address.

    I'm not advocating committing insurance fraud, but it's how a great deal of the indigent community gets free healthcare. The hospitals don't lose much money, because they can just increase the prices for "luxury" procedures like colonoscopy, cholecystectomy, cataract removal, lithotripsy, and the like, most of which are only undertaken by those with health insurance. And if they lose too much money they just apply for an "emergency" grant from the Center for Medicare Services.

    If you pay for healthcare, or have health insurance, you're already providing "free" healthcare for the indigent.
     
  9. Tinkerhell

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    I agree.
    Just do it legally.
    Why is that so hard or so wrong to ask of everyone?
    Get in the system. Pay taxes, pay SS. Learn the language. Learn a little bit about America and American history. Try to ASSIMILATE. Try to make America better at the same time you are making yourself better.

    America should not be trying to take care of everyone. Right now 12-20 million people get paid a wage that is crappy here, but you can live like a refugee (and still be better off than you were in your country) and ship that money back home to another country and it's great cash for your family there ((and the economy there)) and in the mean time they can get a bogus SS #, go to the hospitals and get foodstamps, commit crimes, fill our jails, and in general weaken our country.

    It is a parasitic existence. Yes we have out own natural born citizens that are the exact same, or worse because they just don't want to work. Believe me I would have zero problem setting up an exchange program.

    Lets exchange our natural born citizens that have been having 6 babies and living on welfare for 10 years & refuse to hold down a job & have drinking/drug/criminal history problems and ship them to Mexico and in return we give citizenship to one illegal alien family that has been busting arse working for a sub-contractor or lawn service or whatever for the last 5 years and wants to make themselves better & pay taxes & do things by the book.

    You know when it really comes down to it I do not blame the illegals for doing it. They have a crappy country with a horrible economy & no prospects. They can come here work hard, make good money & even living poorly here is far better than living averagely in Mexico. Who could blame them. Hell, I'd want to do it. The ones I blame are the politicians and the judges and law enforcement that don't enforce the laws we have. And they've done that for sooo long now that it have created a huge mess. Heck ship them off too....
     
  10. wsweeks2

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  11. Sine Nomen

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    Is the real problem lack of enforcement of current laws or the actual enforcement of those laws that makes it unnecessarily difficult and expensive to immigrate the legal way?
     
  12. wsweeks2

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    Just look at enforcement of the reasonable gun laws we have on the books and there is your answer.
     
  13. Malum Prohibitum

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  14. GeorgiaGlocker

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    If they have nothing to hide, why are they running? :-k
     
  15. gsusnake

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    Isn't that what we have Form I-9 for?
     
  16. Rammstein

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    I surprised no one said the joke... "anyone who runs is a VC. anyone who doesn't run is a well disciplined VC!"
     
  17. asbrand

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    Well, speaking from experience...doing it the legal way is a big time PITA.

    My wife is from Russia and it has been nothing but a huge headache for us to do it the "right" and legal way. And, we're still not done. :evil:

    Anyhue....
     
  18. ptsmith24

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    How long has it been since you started the whole process? Just curious.
     
  19. asbrand

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    So far, about 2.5 years.

    Took over 8 months before she was allowed in the country on the Fiance' VISA (K1). We got married a month later (well within the 90 day requirement).

    We've been trying to convert her over to "Legal Permanent Resident Alien" status since then. :?
     
  20. wsweeks2

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    And that is ridiculous Asbrand. Illegals come here and people want to give them amnesty. You're following the rules and getting the run around. That's the problem with this country.