I wasn't trying to be insensitive, Vanguard.vanguard said:I don,t think it is funny. :screwy:
"One of the advantages of hiring, particularly young, undocumented immigrants, is the fact that employers do not have to pay health benefits or basic payroll taxes," said Sum.
I have to agree wif this one!!!zeebo said:I'm not trying to throw gasoline on the fire here, but I wanted to present a different side to this argument. In 1972, when my grandparents and my father, (who was 16 at the time) immigrated to the United States the unemployment rate was above 5%. If the OP's 5% unemployment rule was in effect at that time, I would not live in this great country.
As to the illegals, I doubt that the illegals are taking jobs any of us want. I'd be willing to bet the 99 weeks of unemployment checks is propping up that 9% unemployment rate more than they are. As for the legal immigrants, if they want to come here to contribute to society and pay their taxes, let them come, we could use more of them. I'll put my skills and work ethic against anyone in the world, let the best man win. The welfare state and the abandonment of free market principles are to blame for our economic situation, not the immigrants.
Unless you're completely Native American (or your ancestors were slaves), your ancestors likely benefited from an open immigration system. In 1910 the estimated unemployment rate was about 6%, and there were 13.5 million immigrants living in the United States (approx 17% of the population). How many of us on this forum would not be living here today if they had been barred because the unemployment rate was above 5%?
If you want to take away the welfare benefits of the immigrants, I'm right there with you. Are they a burden on social services? Absolutely. Again, the welfare state is to blame, not the immigrants.
Sources: Unemployment Rate in 1970: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt
Estimated Unemployment rate in 1910:
13.5 Million Immigrants living in US in 1910:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigratio ... es#History
For those who would belittle my Wikipedia sources, thats fine. I acknowledge that Wikipedia is not the most accurate source out there. Post more reputable ones and I'll retract and/or correct mine.
I think this is based upon assumptions. You know why I say that?JeF4y said:It would be an absolute reality check for America.
There are a TON of jobs being done by immigrants (legal & illegal) which born & raised US Citizens wouldn't ever consider doing.
I don't really see the unemployed public rushing out to get the so-called crap jobs of society like picking produce, cleaning hotels & offices, landscaping, etc etc etc. because they are "beneath" them. When in reality, they are all very vital to the life we ALL lead.