other weapons of self defense if u have a GFL

Discussion in 'General GWL Questions' started by chainsaw123, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. chainsaw123

    chainsaw123 GPDO Supporter

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    can you carry a large knife, retractable baton, modified baseball bat, a plain steel bar in a sheath or anything else? What gives? In order to defend yourself you HAVE to shoot someone? Some legal clarification would be appreciated.
     
  2. Ashe

    Ashe New Member

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    You can carry an 1" aluminum pipe in your car and call it a "breaker bar, for changing tires" thats what I used to do. The cops usually just smiled and said, "Of course it is"

    BUt no, even with a GFL you cannot care any less lethal options except pepper spray and a pocketknife

    At least as far as I understand the law
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  3. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    And there are probably further restrictions on knives by the city/county you live in.
     
  4. ntech

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    I am not sure about knives, but I believe you can carry a retractable baton in a sheath on your belt, fully exposed to view.

    If you all remember "the club", the steering wheel locking device that deters car theft. I carry that in my car behind my seat at all times. It actually makes a better club than an anti theft device. However, it is not looked upon as a weapon... :whistle:
     
  5. foshizzle

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    It's a Georgia FIREARMS license. Anything not a firearm is subject to city/local restrictions. Knives, even bowie type knives are fine if they are fully exposed to view. Of course, knife/baton/bat laws aren't preempted by the state law like firearms are... so any municipality can make whatever laws they want.

    I think carrying a baseball bat is ok. Probably a 9 iron as well. To CYA I would carry at least another item of sporting equipment i.e. glove, tees to at least give more credence to your defense if you get put in front of a jury.
     
  6. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    I surely hope no one is talking about knives for the purpose of offense or defense.

    (a) Except as provided in Code Section 16-11-127.1, a person is guilty of a misdemeanor when he or she carries to or while at a public gathering any explosive compound, firearm, or knife designed for the purpose of offense and defense.

    http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode/?t ... ection=127
     
  7. ptsmith24

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    That's at a PG, though. You're technically already screwed.
     
  8. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    I meant to link 126.

    O.C.G.A. § 16-11-126
    Carrying a concealed weapon

    (a) A person commits the offense of carrying a concealed weapon when such person knowingly has or carries about his or her person, unless in an open manner and fully exposed to view, any bludgeon, metal knuckles, firearm, knife designed for the purpose of offense and defense, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument of like character outside of his or her home or place of business, except as permitted under this Code section.

    http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode/?t ... ection=126
     
  9. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    Or I could have gone with 16-11-101, which also provides criminal penalties revolving around knives designed for the purpose of offense or defense.

    O.C.G.A. § 16-11-101
    Furnishing metal knuckles or a knife to person under the age of 18 years

    A person is guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature when he or she knowingly sells to or furnishes to a person under the age of 18 years metal knuckles or a knife designed for the purpose of offense and defense.

    http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode/?t ... ection=101
     
  10. ptsmith24

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    That's why you carry openly. You then have to watch out for city ordinances.

    I don't see why deadly force couldn't stand up against a jury. Even if it was iffy, the fact that the law seems to be so much more ambiguous for less than lethal force makes it a less viable option.
     
  11. chainsaw123

    chainsaw123 GPDO Supporter

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    the way that code reads, one could carry fully exposed a fillet knife. hmmm, honest officer, I was heading to a store to buy the rest of the fishing equipment I need!!!!
     
  12. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    That's just for selling... It's still slightly relevant, though.
     
  13. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    It's not the officer I'm worried about. If he wants to arrest you, he'll damn well arrest you.

    It's the 12 people sitting to the right of the witness stand I'd worry about.
     
  14. ptsmith24

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    :lol: But you could argue that a filet knife isn't designed for the "purpose of offense and defense". Therefore, you could conceal it.
     
  15. Macktee

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    There is something to that. A large chef's knife is designed for the purpose of chopping veggies, not zombies, so it might be OK. A good, stout walking stick makes a great defensive weapon, even against a knife, and is 100% legal anywhere in the state! Unless, it's a sword cane...

    I picked up a really nicely made blackjack at a recent gun show for $10. I highly recommend them over expandable batons. You can hurt a person with an ASP baton; you can break his bones with a jack!

    In addition, blackjacks are easy to carry and conceal, do a great job adjusting bad attitudes and are cheap enough to toss in the bushes afterwards!

    I'd really hate to drop an expensive baton down a storm sewer before the cops arrive, but could manage to part with a $10. item...

    Be sure to get a blackjack, not a slapjack. Blackjacks are cylindrical, weighted at the business end and spring-loaded. Slapjacks are flat and were designed not to do as much damage, so as to reduce complaints of police brutality. Then cops learned hitting with the edge worked almost as well...
     
  16. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Macktee, did you invent the blackjack? I only ask because every other post you praise it again and again.

    For a non-firearm weapon, I recommend bodyguards. With firearms. Not as cheap as a blackjack, though.
     
  17. GAGunOwner

    GAGunOwner Active Member

    Tasers are considered "firearms" so you must have the GFL to carry one BUT if you do you can carry it concealed. The off-limits places still appy so it would make more sense to just carry a pistol in my opinion.
     
  18. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    Yes, but you can't throw a bodyguard down a storm sewer before the po shows up.
     
  19. GAGunOwner

    GAGunOwner Active Member

    So are you saying I can't throw Kevin Costner away that fast? Are Kevin Costners' even illegal in Georgia, maybe just at public gatherings? :lol:
     
  20. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    I don't know if you can, but I sure wish the movie industry had.