Oregon Trying to Lower Voting Age to 16 to Pass Massive Gun Control

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Mrs_Esterhouse, Mar 26, 2019.

  1. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Proof that duped minorities, dead voters, illegal alien voters, blood-thirsty abortion-lover voters, and perversion-lover voters are not enough to get the DemocRats what they want.

    They also want mush-headed youths as a voter block.
     

  2. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Let's see.............

    You have to be 18 in OR to legally drink, engage in sexual activity or enter into a contract.

    The dems want to allow 16 y/o's to vote.

    So, we can't trust them to drink, get laid or sign a contract at 16 but we can trust them to vote responsibly at 16 on matters that will affect their lives for decades to come. With no or very minimal real life experiences.

    Democrats. They crack me up. :rotfl2:
     
  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    21 is the drinking age
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Remember, states set voting requirements, so if Oregon makes the age 16, then they will be able to vote in federal elections, not just state.
     
  5. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    I could envision lawsuits over that much the same as there was opposition to the 26th Amendment back in 1970. Lack of maturity, responsibility and today they'd probably throw in agenda activism.
     
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  6. Mrs_Esterhouse

    Mrs_Esterhouse Swollen Member

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    Dems are frantically searching for new voter blocks to gain more power. This is one manifestation of their search. Amnesty for illegals is another.
     
  7. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Oregon v. Mitchell 1970 congress regulates voting age in federal elections but not state and local.

    Now they want to try it again?

    26A prevents states from setting voting age higher than 18.

    See Wild in the Streets. 1968 movie about what we are living now.
     
  8. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Oregon v. Mitchell- Congress lowered the voting age to 18. Oregon refused, wanting to keep it in Oregon at 21 and argued that states set the age, not Congress.

    Oregon lost the case, but the dissents are better reasoned, and two of the Justices said just what I said about it, that the qualifications are up to the states.

    It did not matter, though, as the Constitution was amended a year later to make 18 the age, that is, no state may deny the right to vote on account of age if the voter is 18 or older.

    It was 1970. The court was on an activist trend, ignoring the constitutional framework willy-nilly. Roe v. Wade was to come out in 1973, ignoring the constitution altogether.
     
  9. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    What is SCOTUS' opinion on how responsible 16 and 17 year olds are?

    Let's consider what the Court said about young Americans of those specific ages when sone states had laws allowing for the death penalty for 17 year olds who committed murder with aggravating circumstances:

    (Summary from Wikipedia)

    "...the Court held that it was cruel and unusual punishment to execute a person who was under the age of 18 at the time of the murder. Writing for the majority, Justice Kennedy cited a body of sociological and scientific research that found that juveniles have a lack of maturity and sense of responsibility compared to adults. Adolescents were found to be over-represented statistically in virtually every category of reckless behavior. The Court noted that in recognition of the comparative immaturity and irresponsibility of juveniles, almost every state prohibited those under age 18 from voting, serving on juries, or marrying without parental consent. The studies also found that juveniles are more vulnerable to negative influences and outside pressures, including peer pressure. "

    Roper v. Simmons, 543 U.S. 551 (2005)
     
  10. RedDawnTheMusical

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    I presume that the Demoncrats move to the political left was specifically engineered to gain voters. The only people that will support that non-sense are young idealist and people that don't know what it's like to work for a living. It is imperative for the Democrats to secure young voters to gain votes. This is especially true for 2020 where they are going up against a POTUS that has been highly successful at fulfilling his promises and improving the state of the country (economy, employment, foreign conflicts, etc.). Democrats need a radical plan to get any support.
     
  11. Mrs_Esterhouse

    Mrs_Esterhouse Swollen Member

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    Dems are pulling out all the stops to get more votes:

    http://www.fox5atlanta.com/facebook...ed-that-would-make-puerto-rico-the-51st-state

    I imagine Dems would annex Mexico into the U.S. if they could. They would have absolute power for at least a century if that happened.
     
  12. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Puerto Rico has declined Statehood for many years. As it stands they pay less taxes to the government than if they become a state.
     
  13. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    We should cut Puerto Rico - and Guam - loose like we did with the Phillippines and Cuba. All they are are remnants of the Spanish-American War.
     
  14. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Have to be careful though. If we do that they may end up flipping the islands over.

    Nemo
     
  15. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Agreed! Both are huge drains on the US and bringing them in as states would only increase the burden they impose.
     
  16. jmorriss

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    That still makes me die laughing.
     
  17. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Don't do that. Zombies are not pleasant to be around.

    Nemo
     
  18. diamondback

    diamondback Well-Known Member

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