On Fred Thompson

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by shamalama, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. shamalama

    shamalama New Member

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    I received a letter from Presidential candidate Fred Thompson. In the first four short paragraphs he makes some statements like “giving this a lot of thoughtâ€, “conservative principlesâ€, “defending our valuesâ€, etc.

    But in the fifth paragraph he states his questions to America:

    * Will we fight terrorism or run away?
    * Will we secure America’s borders?
    * Will we stop wasteful spending?
    * Will we stand up for the Second Amendment?
    * Will we protect Social Security?
    * Will we defend marriage and our unborn?

    Then the letter goes on about needing money for his campaign. Finally he states what he wants to do if he gets into the White House:

    * I’ll cut taxes and make the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent.
    * I’ll use veto power to stop pork-barrel spending.
    * No amnesty for illegal aliens.
    * I am pro-life, will defend traditional marriage, and protect the Second Amendment.

    He then ends the letter with a “this is where I stand, will you support me†request.

    But something I noticed, and the reason I’m posting this, is that Fred Thompson mentioned protecting the Second Amendment twice in his letter. He said that he will oppose gun control schemes that leave criminals and terrorists as the only people with guns in America.

    As we approach the 2008 Presidential election we will probably decide between Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson as the Republican candidate for President.

    * Giuliani says he’s a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, but there’s nothing in his “12 Commitments To The American People†about it. But he was a strong proponent of gun control during his years as New York mayor. “A place like New York that is densely populated or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem … maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.â€
    * I couldn’t find anything about the Second Amendment in the “Romney Agenda†section of his campaign website. When Romney ran for Senate in 1994, he told the Boston Herald that he supported the Brady gun-control law and a ban on scores of semi-automatic firearms. Romney did not back off his support for gun control during his run for governor in 2002. “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them. I won’t chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.â€

    Just something to remember as we watch the candidates on the campaign trail.
     
  2. blind_shake

    blind_shake Active Member

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    watch out for Romney he is a RINO Republican In Name Only
     

  3. Opus X

    Opus X New Member

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    If I'm not mistaken, in the first debate Romney stated he supports an assault weapons ban.
     
  4. GrimJack

    GrimJack Active Member

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    Too bad he doesn't know what an assault weapon is.

    Oh no, it has a pitol grip, a large magazine, a thumb hole stock. Sir, that is a Ruger 10/22 .22 cal rifle. I don't care, it is scary........
     
  5. Vir Quisque Vir

    Vir Quisque Vir New Member

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    Fred Thompson is pro-firearms for law-abiding citizens and clearly pro-2nd amendment. He has recently suggested he would support the Fair Tax. He is not of the cut and run mentality, that is for sure. He recognizes that you chase down terrorists before they rip the Pentagon and Twin towers in NY again. I am not sure about Rudy Guiliani, but to be fair, the way someone acts in an individual state is not necessarily the way they do when in the Presidency. Guiliani knows first hand what terrorists can do and he is not likely to forget either. I would imagine there would be strict licensing requirements, but I do not think either man is in a hurry to take away firearms or to support undermining the 2nd and 14th amendments. My sense is that neither man is a significant threat to our 2nd amendment rights. Both are no nonsense on terrorism. Thompson is more a southern conservative federalists and Rudy is a bit more moderate in his social stand. I'll take the heat here, neither is as bad as electing a socialist. Clinton gun ban, Pelosi, Diane Feinstein. Feinstein would have collected all the guns already, if she just had the votes. Forget that she had a carry permit as Mayor, but would deny the 2nd to everyone else. Will get off the soap box now. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary. :)
     
  6. cdtracing

    cdtracing New Member

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    Listening to Giuliani's interviews I don't feel he will push for gun control but if a bill came to his desk he would definately sign it. I personaly like what I hear from Duncan Hunter. He supports the 2nd amendment, is for securing the border and no amnasty. He is also open to the fair tax. Too bad he will not be in the selected process done by the anti American media. When it comes time to vote I will have to choose between Hunter and Thompson.

    Chris
     
  7. pyromaster

    pyromaster New Member

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    Appearantly, Fred hired Bill Lacy the same guy who worked with him to win the Senate in TN to work on his campaign.
    “Bill Lacy worked in the campaigns of President Reagan, President Bush and Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole from 1980-1996,†Thompson said. “He turned around my campaign for Senate in 1994 and, as I move toward a decision on whether to run for President, I am confident he will take our operations to the next level.â€

    Supposedly, he should announce early in Sept...but the same people saying that were the ones saying he'd announce after July 4.
     
  8. Vir Quisque Vir

    Vir Quisque Vir New Member

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    Fred Thompson, the southern conservative Federalist

    Coming soon to an auditorium near you. Just after Labor Day. Possibly north Nashville, some 2,000 seat auditorium. I did not say July 4th, so here is my best guess. Fred Thompson. Rumor (only) has it that there will be speakers outside the auditorium on his red pickup truck and grits will be served in the parking lot for the overflow crowd. Good times for 2nd amendment folks!
    :D
     
  9. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    Ron Paul. Luvs teh guns. Believes in Federalism. Limited Government. Fair tax?...how about no IRS?
     
  10. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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  11. Dan H

    Dan H New Member

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  12. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    While I agree with the Ron Paul bit I also think that Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter would be great as president.

    My personal philosophy for '08 is "Anyone, but any democrat, Romney, McCain, or Guilliani"
     
  13. GrimJack

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    I am not sure I can 100% get behind Dr. Paul. I agree with him on many issues. I just don't know if he is electable. I don't believe in throwing my votes away. I do really like Fred Thompson, I just wonder if he can pull off a Reagan and get elected.
     
  14. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    My main problem with him is elect-ability as well.

    As I like to say in my perfect world there would be two political parties: Republicans and Libertarians.
     
  15. GrimJack

    GrimJack Active Member

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    +1 on that.

    I wish the Libertarians could find some candidates that were not so crazy. Or perhaps get several elected as Republicans and then let them announce a party switch.
     
  16. ptsmith24

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    That probably contributed to Dr. Paul's decision to run under the Republican label. Doesn't any party besides the big two have to earn a spot on the ballot?
     
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    AV8R Banned

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  18. Ashe

    Ashe New Member

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    While I like Ron Paul I agree that he just isn't electable. Fred on the other hand has been playing this smart. Some people complain about the whole Will he or wont he thing but normally the candidates for president dont announce until around November/December anyways, this election year has been way early.

    I also have to laugh at the tinhats who say "Fred is a member of the CFR and the UN conspiracy.

    I say Better Fred than Red!
     
  19. M249

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    Both Dr. Paul and Mr. Thompson support the Fair Tax.

    I'd prefer Dr. Paul, but I' contributed funds to both candidates. Mitt, Rudy, and John can KMAMF.
     
  20. JiG

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    The lesser of two evils is still evil.

    Nothing is going to change unless folks quit putting the same hacks in office.

    I will always vote for freedom up until it's gone.

    Thompson is just another politician who just looks presidential.