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Holy F&@^ing Crap! I really feel for that guy. I bet he would love to spend an hour alone with the prick who called him in. :evil:

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One thing to remember with reference to the above link is that his "choice" to open carry did not cause the encounter with police.

"What? MP, How can you say such a thing!?!"

Well, in Ohio, no concealed carry is allowed within your vehicle. That is, you must "unconceal" your piece before stepping into the car, and carry openly while driving. There simply is no choice in the matter under Ohio law.

Also, Ohio is one of those states where it is legal to open carry without any firearms license at all!

With that having been said, this occurred while he was leaving a gas station, where he did not go inside the store. He simply used his credit card to pay at the pump.

Now what do you think of the story in the link?
 

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That link is sixteen pages long now. How does a state-specific site get that much traffic?
 

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the people at"ohioans for concealed carry" have a very strong following,they were instramental in getting ccw passed in ohio and are working to get that insane car carry and the public records provisions removed,they had the votes in the legislature,but the RINO governor taft refused to sign it. :roll:
 

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The KNEW he was carrying. Why does he need to inform them of something that they already know?
 

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Another arrest.

I guess it is no better if you are concealed carrying.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article ... 072059.txt

Gun toter charged despite license
Monday April 02 2007, 6:54am
PERKINS TWP.

A Sandusky man was charged with improper handling of a firearm even though he had a license to carry it.

Larry F. Fearing, 54, was charged with improper handling of a concealed weapon for the incident at an area gas station.

He was there to pick up his wife from work.

He was reportedly seen carrying his hand gun in his front pants pocket, even though he said he was trying to keep it out of sight.

When Perkins police arrived, they ordered Fearing and his passenger out of their vehicle, asking him to back up and drop to his knees before they handcuffed him, according to reports.

Fearing's gun was found in the his car's dashboard console. It was loaded with the safety on, police said.
The comments at the link are interesting.
 

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MP have you seen any of the discussion on ohioccw.com. they seem to think he was charged because of how the weapon was carried while driving :shakehead:
 

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Malum may have a twin in Ohio.

Cadet wrote on April 02, 2007 10:35 AM:"The problem with this charge is that it may not hold up. Under Ohio Revised Code 2923.16 He has to have the firearm in a locked console/glove box and it can be loaded or hot as L/E would call it. Also since updating the firearms law March 14, 2007. You may also transport a loaded firearm in a bag that zips that is in plain site or a box that snaps shut loaded. This charge may not hold up for Perkins Township. If I were PPD I would be worried their insurance rates might be going up on this one. Because if they are looking at Andersons online where you can find the Ohio Revised Code. The new law has yet to be updated as of yet. 2923.16(E)(1) does and does not apply on this issue. I would personally refer to the Ohio Attny Generals Office or this fact http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bill ... 126_HB_347 or this Several other aspects of Ohio's 3-year-old law CHL law will also changed. Requires courts to award costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person, group, or entity that prevails in a challenge to an ordinance, rule, or regulation as being in conflict with Ohio law Raises the license fee to $55 and makes the license valid for five years (not retroactive to currently held licenses) Requires a person carrying a concealed firearm to keep their hands in plain sight during any stop for a "law enforcement purpose" and specifies a penalty of a first degree misdemeanor Raises the penalty for failure to inform an LEO you are carrying a concealed firearm from a fourth degree to a first degree misdemeanor, and requiring a suspension of the person's CHL Specifies that the penalty for grasping or attempting to grasp your firearm during a law enforcement stop, without specific direction from an LEO, is a fifth degree felony Requires a CHL applicant to be legally living in the United States Allows for a CHL renewal period of 90 days prior to expiration and 30 days after expiration Requires sheriffs to accept applications at least 15 hours per week and to post those hours Requires sheriffs to accept applications for temporary emergency licenses during all regular business hours and without an appointment You are not permitted to exit your vehicle during a traffic stop unless instructed to by an LEO Removes the plain sight requirement for carrying in a motor vehicle, but still requires use of a holster A loaded firearm in a locked case does not need to be in plain sight, but an unlocked case must be in plain sight and have a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover, or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun Violations of most provisions in a motor vehicle are now increased, many to felonies Statewide preemption of firearms law was enacted as follows: The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition. Local laws that Statewide preemption will NOT invalidate: A zoning ordinance that regulates or prohibits the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for residential or agricultural uses. A zoning ordinance that specifies the hours of operation or the geographic areas where the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms may occur, provided that the zoning ordinance is consistent with zoning ordinances for other retail establishments in the same geographic area and does not result in a de facto prohibition of the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial uses. These are all the facts. Thank you and enough said. All facts are current according to the revised weapons law of Ohio "
Those silly laws. Always getting in the way of those who are supposed to enforce them.
 
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