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May 5, 2007

Boston - - The investigation into the shooting death of a Veteran South Georgia police officer continues. A fellow officer accidentally shot and killed Boston Assistant Police Chief Al Suarez Friday evening.

At the Boston Police Department, things just aren't the same. There's a somber spirit here.

"We're just taking it day by day," says Police Chief Chuck Weaver.

Thomas County workers are handling the operations this weekend as Boston police officers and staff take time off to deal with the loss of their own.

"He was my right hand man. My equal. He ran that city with me, he was a partner," Weaver says.

He was called to the station after 6 o'clock Friday night, after an officer accidentally shot Assistant Chief Al Suarez while cleaning his gun.

Weaver was there as Suarez was rushed to Archbold Memorial Hospital. He died there.

Officers aren't yet releasing the name of the officer involved.

"We've talked, but he's obviously struggling. He's having some hard times."

The Thomas County Sheriff's department and GBI agents are handling the investigation.

"We're going to take a look to see if there was some procedures that were not followed," says Thomas County Sheriff Carlton Powell.
Powell says they're questioning the officer involved.

"It's not so much any criminal intent, but I think its just a matter of trying to determine just how it all came about and what steps can be taken to prevent this type of thing in the future."

It will be up to Chief Weaver to decide if any disciplinary action will be taken against that officer. In the meantime, he mourns the loss.

"Just loveable. Could be gruff, but in the inside he was one of the kindest men I've ever known."

Of a man contributing almost 20 years to the Boston Police Department.

Suarez once served as Police Chief in Boston himself. Before that, he was a jailer at the Thomas County Sheriff's Office. The officer who accidentally shot Suarez started at the department in November.
an officer accidentally shot Assistant Chief Al Suarez while cleaning his gun
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Oh yeah.... must be another one of those professionally trained guys. You know, the ones that are "experts" in arms and the reason we shouldn't worry about our safety?...
 

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"We're going to take a look to see if there was some procedures that were not followed," says Thomas County Sheriff Carlton Powell.
How about the procedure of not pointing your gun at people you don't intend to shoot?

When I lived in AL a couple of years ago, a cop shot and killed another officer by playing "quick draw" with each other (!) in the parking lot after a training session.

This thread deserves the "Professional Enough" award:
 

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For some reason!!!!

Gee, I bet he was cleaning a GLOCK. You ask why I say such a horrible thing. While glocks seem to be no more dangerous than any other gun I have always had to question WHY do you have to pull the trigger to take a glock appart???????

Let the games begin..................................................
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legacy38 said:
I mourn the loss of a human being and fellow officer via tragic and preventable circumstances.
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I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them. Remember the four basic rules of firearm safety?.

As MP so clearly reminded us, it was preventable. How sad.
 

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Forgive me!!!!

Malum Prohibitum said:
legacy38 said:
I mourn the loss of a human being and fellow officer via tragic and preventable circumstances.
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I did not mean to make trivial the fact that an officer lost his life. I mourn with you guys and hope that another tragedy can be averted because the officer that shot him will have to live with this the rest of his life.
:handcuffs: :( :( :oops:
 

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GeorgiaGlocker said:
I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them.
SA XD

I always triple check the chamber when cleaning as I did last night when I got home. I agree, I dont like pulling the trigger either...
 

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GeorgiaGlocker said:
I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them.
Taurus MP145 - Have to pull trigger to remove slide.
 

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I didn't know.

jgullock said:
GeorgiaGlocker said:
I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them.
Taurus MP145 - Have to pull trigger to remove slide.
The only hand guns I have owned have been glocks and 1911's. One of the reasons I primarily own 1911's is you don't have to pull the trigger to dis-assemble them.
Yes I know the argument that the best safety should be between the ears. But the sad fact is we humans need some help mechanicaly to prevent our or others demise and sometimes that doesnt help.
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Re: I didn't know.

tj2000 said:
jgullock said:
GeorgiaGlocker said:
I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them.
Taurus MP145 - Have to pull trigger to remove slide.
The only hand guns I have owned have been glocks and 1911's. One of the reasons I primarily own 1911's is you don't have to pull the trigger to dis-assemble them.
Yes I know the argument that the best safety should be between the ears. But the sad fact is we humans need some help mechanicaly to prevent our or others demise and sometimes that doesnt help.
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I agree. As humans we are inclined to be distracted sometimes and make mistakes. I don't have a problem with pulling the trigger on my glocks to clean them. It just has become second nature to me to drop the mag and check the chamber. Now having said that, I [-o< that I will never become distracted and make a mistake.
 

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Dan H said:
GeorgiaGlocker said:
I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them.
SA XD

I always triple check the chamber when cleaning as I did last night when I got home. I agree, I dont like pulling the trigger either...
You are right about having to pull the trigger, but on an XD you have to lock the slide all the way back before you can flip the lever to break it down. :righton: Unless you left the mag in with a round in it :shock: , you this would eject any round from the chamber and your chamber would be clear. This was a safety design in XDs. I am not sure if Glocks have the same feature, but I don't remember that to be the case.

I gotta say I have heard of atleast 4 or 5 instances of people shooting there hand while cleaning a Glock. Of course maybe the popularity of the brand makes it seem disproportionate.

But most importantly are the 4 laws of guns safety:

1. The gun is always loaded!
2. Never point a gun at something you're not prepared to destroy!
3. Always be sure of your target and what is behind it!
4. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!


I know most of us here know these, but then so should the officer, it never hurts to remind ourselves once in a while. :wink:

I hate hearing crap like this, it affects so many and it didn't have to happen.
 

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I seriously doubt a PD would be usin gone, but has anyone here tried to field strip then reassemble a Ruger MK series? You pull the trigger once or twice to strip, and several times to reassemble. You also have to have a mag inserted when you pull the trigger if it's a later model.
 

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I have a MK I and I have to say it is the most agravating firearm I have ever owned for breaking down and putting back together. However, it shoots like a dream and is the first pistol I ever bought for myself so it will be with me till I'm gone, then the boy gets it....
 

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Ruger .22 auto's were designed to be shot not cleaned. You clean them when they stop working.
 

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What a pointless loss of life. The officer that shot the other one is gonna be psychologically screwed up now.
 

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jgullock said:
GeorgiaGlocker said:
I don't recall what other gun it is at the moment, but Glocks are not the only gun that you have to pull the trigger in order to clean them.
Taurus MP145 - Have to pull trigger to remove slide.
My Taurus 24/7 has the same process. I believe most of the Taurus Semi-Autos have to pull the trigger to release the slide.
 

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I bet I can field strip and reassemble a Ruger Mk II series faster than 1911 and fairly close in speed to a glock.

I know a fellow MK2 enthusiast who video taped himself to prove he could strip it AND put back together in 30 seconds.

I do not mind the pulling the trigger thing so much, as long as it does not have a magazine disconnect safety on the firearm (like the MKIII does).
 
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