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Let us make sure we know and understand the arguments against this decision by the gun control advocates out there. The more you know about the other side's case the easier it is to defeat them. Ask any reasonably intelligent person on the validity of that.

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From Prez Joe's statement linked above.

As the late Justice Scalia recognized, the Second Amendment is not absolute. For centuries, states have regulated who may purchase or possess weapons, the types of weapons they may use, and the places they may carry those weapons. And the courts have upheld these regulations
Yes, those factors were part of Scalia's opinion. But a newer related opinion can modify, limit, expand. or overturn prior decisions.

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If you read the dissenting opinion, they start with irrelevant statistics and fearmongering, not law nor facts. That is going to be the narrative going forward. "It's too important to follow the law". Good news is the outraged rent-a-mob will have another target tomorrow after the Dobbs release.
 
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Violent crime in NY, NJ, HI, and other places is about to take a sharp downturn.
 

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Perhaps Puerto Rico will now soon move forward with reciprocal agreements with the states.
 

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Shh. Nobody tell them they’re supporting a law specifically drawn up to target immigrants.
Also, the law still stands, just as shall-issue.
NYS or NYC wont even have to change the law. "Proper Cause" of Sullivan law was defined by the NY courts to mean a hightened need for protection above a general desire for self-defense. That court decision should now be void and "All Lawful purpose" should be enough of a "Proper Cause". In addition, current NYC pistol permit cost is $340 and for rifle and shotguns is $140. Neither of those costs can stand. NYC will have to justify those costs. If poll tax is unconstitutional, then excessive fees shouldn't stand either.
 

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The Atlanta Journal and Constitution didn't even mention the Supreme Court's ruling as of 8:30 AM this morning. Apparently they are conspiring to write a series of hit pieces and editorials against it, probably combined with opinion editorials to pack the court with new justices.

And until they are ready to fire a full salvo of communist propaganda against our 2A freedom, they are going to remain silent about it --the fewer people who know about their constitutional rights the better.
 

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In addition, current NYC pistol permit cost is $340 and for rifle and shotguns is $140. Neither of those costs can stand. NYC will have to justify those costs. If poll tax is unconstitutional, then excessive fees shouldn't stand either.
The opinion notes that excessive fees and such are improper also.

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footnote 9

That said, because any permitting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry
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Some other things could also be improper, such as:

1. License being only short-term
2. Expensive cost or extensive hours of training required
3. Medical records submission required, violating privacy
4. Excessive references required
5. Residency requirements or proof thereof being cumbersome

The opinion notes that excessive fees and such are improper also.

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