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in a gun case, from NYC dealing with guns.

I caught that much from a news report just as I turned the tv on.

I can find nothing googling stuff in the past half hour.

Release the hounds!

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Been searching for half hour or so prior to above, but FOUND IT!

Nemo

Source Cite
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/ordersofthecourt/18

Internal link from Above
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/012219zor_8759.pdf
Page 3

CERTIORARI GRANTED
18-280
NY STATE RIFLE & PISTOL, ET AL. V. NEW YORK, NY, ET AL.
The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted.

Link to case being heard.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1716013.html

Paragraph summarizing holding of CA 2 from cite directly above.

We hold that the core provisions of the New York and Connecticut laws prohibiting possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines do not violate the Second Amendment, and that the challenged individual provisions are not void for vagueness. The particular provision of New York's law regulating load limits, however, does not survive the requisite scrutiny. One further specific provision-Connecticut's prohibition on the non-semiautomatic Remington 7615-unconstitutionally infringes upon the Second Amendment right. Accordingly, we AFFIRM in part the judgment of the District Court for the District of Connecticut insofar as it upheld the prohibition of semiautomatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines, and REVERSE in part its holding with respect to the Remington. With respect to the judgment of the District Court for the Western District of New York, we REVERSE in part certain vagueness holdings, and we otherwise AFFIRM that judgment insofar as it upheld the prohibition of semiautomatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines and invalidated the load limit.
Link to another aspect (?) of the case

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/22/sup...gun-rights-case-on-transporting-handguns.html
 

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Today's cert grant by the Supreme Court on the Second Amendment deals with a relatively minor law (NY's restrictions on transportation of firearms) but the ruling could be huge.

12:21 PM - 22 Jan 2019
Adam Winkler‏ @adamwinkler 32m32 minutes ago
This the first Supreme Court case on the right to have a gun outside of the home -- a key issue that has so far been left unresolved by the Court. A broad ruling in the NY case could undermined longstanding laws on concealed carry.


  1. For years, the Court could not find 4 votes to grant cert in a gun case. Many people suspected that Kennedy was hesitant to expand gun rights. He's since been replaced by Kavanaugh, who is likely much more eager to get the Court involved in reshaping US gun laws.

  2. Adam Winkler‏ @adamwinkler 32m32 minutes ago
    If the Court says there is a right to have guns outside of the home, it could lead to hundreds of thousands more people carrying guns on the streets of cities like LA, NY, Washington DC.

  3. Adam Winkler‏ @adamwinkler [URL='https://twitter.com/adamwinkler/status/1087762193049763841]32m32 minutes ago[/URL]
    LA has only a few hundred civilians with concealed carry permits. If shall-issue permitting required by the Court, it is likely that LA will have around 300,000 permit holders within the foreseeable future. (About 3-5% of the population gets a permit in shall-issue states.)
 

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IIRC, Kavanaugh dissented in a case from the DC CoA that basically banned semi-auto rifles. He argued they should be available and were one in common use. Feinstein made some arguments on that during his confirmation hearing.

It really could be a big one.

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NPR - Supreme Court Takes 1st Gun Case In Nearly A Decade, Possibly With Big Consequences

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/22/6874...hare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
New York [City] bans transporting permitted handguns outside city lines, even if the gun is not loaded and is locked in a container. The guns currently can only be taken to the handful of shooting ranges within city limits.
This is about legally registered guns in NYC. Your guns are consigned to the NYC limits. How is this any different than NYC claiming any legally owned vehicles registered in NYC can never go outside the city limits? Sounds like a "Berlin Wall" for guns.
 

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Last paragraph from the Slate article cited above.

Say it is so Brett, say it is!

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Once the Second Amendment is extended beyond the home, public-carry bans generally will be the next to fall. Lower courts, now packed with pro-gun Trump nominees, will swiftly tear down restrictions on concealed and open carry. A central premise of Heller and McDonald-that the Second Amendment protects handguns "in the home"-will be cast aside. New York State Rifle will be the first shot in a coming constitutional revolution.
 

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Guys, your obsession for carry puts us all in danger. See?

There are good answers to these questions. Right-to-carry laws, like those in Texas, appear to contribute to violent crime and increase homicide rates. Individuals carrying a weapon are more likely to escalate incidents of road rage and domestic conflicts into fatal shootings. Cities and states have a strong interest in curbing individuals' ability to bring deadly weapons into the streets.
 

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SLATE was referencing that BS John Hopkins Opinion paper that has been debunked.
We know. Slate is a ultra left wing radical Trump is the devil incarnate magazine that if you do not bow to their beliefs you are mentally defective and should be denied your excessive use of oxygen.

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Nemo, that second circuit case you linked above - it has nothing at all to do with this, does it? I spent all yesterday evening thinking that the S.Ct was taking up an "assault weapon ban" Second Amendment case.
 

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Nemo, that second circuit case you linked above - it has nothing at all to do with this, does it? I spent all yesterday evening thinking that the S.Ct was taking up an "assault weapon ban" Second Amendment case.
Only to the notation that Kavanaugh was one of the 3 on the original appellate review of Heller.

I had never made or realized that connection.

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This may well be a very important case for all gun owners. The original petitioners are the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association (NRA) and three individuals. Amicus curiae briefs have been filed by:

Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners Foundation, The Heller Foundation, Conservative Legal Defense and Education Fund, Downsize DC Foundation, DownsizeDC.org, Restoring Liberty Action Committee.

The states of LA, AL, AZ, AR, GA, ID, KA, KY, MI, MS, MT, OK, SC, TX, UT, WV, WI.

Western States Sheriffs Association, International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors, Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund, Law Enforcement Action Network, Law Enforcement Alliance of America, International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers.
 
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