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I don't see a problem here...the cop didn't get his way so she must be arrested....there must be something we can charge her with....I mean damn, he is the authority
 

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Payne cited the "implied consent law" - which Porter said had changed in 2007 - and said he had been advised by the watch commander on duty to arrest Wubbels if she did not cooperate, according to the detective's written report cited by the Salt Lake Tribune.

Only the government can legally discriminate and legally steal the property/labor of others.
 

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From another source:

"Salt Lake Police Sgt. Brandon Shearer said that Chief Mike Brown has seen the 'very alarming' footage.
Shearer admitted that the department's blood-draw policy hadn't been updated, but that they are now working to educate all officers on the current policy.
Payne is still on active duty but he was suspended from the blood draw program and an internal investigation is ongoing.
Perhaps even more concerning is a comment Payne is heard saying on the video to another officer.
Talking about his other job as an ambulance driver, Payne says :'I'll bring 'em all the transients and take the good patients elsewhere.'
Wubbels was civil when asked what she would like to see happen to the officer.
'I think he needs some serious training,' she said. "
 

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I read somewhere that the patient was unconscious, and the law didn't allow for her to take the blood while the patient was unconscious, does anyone know in this place if the law states that?
 

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I don't see a problem here...the cop didn't get his way so she must be arrested....there must be something we can charge her with....I mean damn, he is the authority
Did you hear his voice crack? So upset and furious he was told no, like a petulant child.

Where do they find these guys?
 

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Her nursing license was on the line and she was being threatened with arrest. However, Wubbels rightfully followed hospital policy and advocated on behalf of her unconscious patient. The patient could not consent, was not under arrest, and the officer had no warrant.

She refused to violate the patient’s rights and HIPAA policy. Per hospital policy, blood cannot be drawn from unconscious patients.
Source is nurse.org
 

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In Georgia the law is crystal clear. No arrest, warrant, or consent, no blood.

My employer takes it a step further and requires consent from the patient even if he or she is under arrest.
 

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And his line about bringing all the transients there... better read up on EMTALA, buddy...
 

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I don't see a problem here...the cop didn't get his way so she must be arrested....there must be something we can charge her with....I mean damn, he is the authority
All she had to do was comply, but she wanted to do things the hard way. He should have tazed her at least five times for her defiant attitude.

*You know, 'The Kimmer' and many other statists would probably agree with this statement.
 

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Even if the arrest was proper, you cannot force another person to do anything like that under threat of arrest. There is no charge.

All of those other "men" stood by and, fearfully, did nothing while he laid hands on her.
 

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Just one word for this-- cop. Nuff said.

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I heard there was a service dog next to it's owner in the hallway on the way out and he shot that dog for good measure.

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Something not yet mentioned here:

The wreck was caused by a driver who was running from police pursuit and who crossed into oncoming traffic and hit a truck head-on. That guy was killed instantly. It was the truck driver, who was the victim and whom no one had any reason even to suspect of any wrongdoing, whose blood the cop wanted.
 

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Over on arfcom there's a huge thread about this incident with lots of body cam footage and numerous news article links. Some LEOs have said the whole mess reeks of butt covering by the LEAs involved in the car chase. Speculation is that the state patrol wanted the blood test to see if the innocent truck driver/Idaho reserve sheriff 's deputy had any drugs or alcohol in his system so the state patrol and other agencies in the chase could shift some or all the blame for the wreck onto the truck driver and off themselves. Oh and of course they released a statement that they were wanting the blood draw to "clear" the truck driver of any suspicion. Nice folks.
 

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... Some LEOs have said the whole mess reeks of butt covering by the LEAs involved in the car chase.
The incident happened 26 July and the only reason we're hearing about it is because it went 'viral'. The LE agencies in involved would likely have been quite content to sweep this under the rug had it not attracted national attention.

I also highly suspect CoolHand is correct in that it's a case of trying to cover for the accident being as a result of a high-speed chase (or, that's at least what I heard precipitated the accident).
 

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Even if the arrest was proper, you cannot force another person to do anything like that under threat of arrest. There is no charge.

All of those other "men" stood by and, fearfully, did nothing while he laid hands on her.
Had you been there, what would you have done, if anything? Isn't interference with a cop a crime? What do you think might have happened to you?
 

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You might be a bad cop
 

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