New Jersey is taking a step in the right direction.

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by HydroAuto, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. HydroAuto

    HydroAuto GPDO Commonlaw Spouse

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    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2010/Bills/A1500/1384_I1.HTM

    Still nowhere near where it should be, but much better than it currently is.
     
  2. BG_Atl

    BG_Atl Active Member

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    Maybe someone should show this to John Lott :lol:
     

  3. Metalheadisme

    Metalheadisme New Member

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    This is a ridiculously huge step in the right direction for NJ.

    Hopefully it finds the support it needs.
     
  4. 45_Fan

    45_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Whoo! That'd make NJ a shall issue state. :righton:

    I disagree with a training requirement, but these baby steps are huge!
     
  5. jmorriss

    jmorriss Active Member

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    Woot!

    I wonder about reciprocity.
     
  6. mark5019

    mark5019 what me worry?

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    my bro from nam lives in nj why it beats me
     
  7. frankr

    frankr Active Member

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    Why is this in "Off-topic Political" instead of "National Laws, Bills and Politics"?
     
  8. HydroAuto

    HydroAuto GPDO Commonlaw Spouse

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    Because I'm ign'ant and Malum hasn't been in yet. :shattered:
     
  9. RedDawnTheMusical

    RedDawnTheMusical Well-Known Member

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    NJ even remotely considering becoming a 'shall issue' state? Hell has truely frozen over.
     
  10. fiwit

    fiwit New Member

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    There's another thread on this topic that shows the bill to be more of a huge step backward...

    viewtopic.php?f=11&t=51592


    45_fan posted this in that other thread yesterday
     
  11. HydroAuto

    HydroAuto GPDO Commonlaw Spouse

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    Wow, that's ridiculous.
     
  12. RedDawnTheMusical

    RedDawnTheMusical Well-Known Member

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    Charging more for providing less - that's the NJ 'progress' that I know....
     
  13. GAGunOwner

    GAGunOwner Active Member

    Hell froze over when Heller was handed down.
     
  14. rabbivj

    rabbivj My Name is Inigo Montoya

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    iirc i think the reason why they increased the cost was to raise money...i remember reading that a couple of other may issue states (i think IL was one, grant it they are no issue) was campaigning on making IL Right to carry but wasnt on a RKBA platform but as a Money Raising issue.
     
  15. 45_Fan

    45_Fan Well-Known Member

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    If the intent were simply to raise money, they could have done that by converting to shall-issue, doubling or tripling the fees, and leaving everything else alone. Going to $500/year from today's $10/year is going to decrease the number of licenses in circulation, not increase them. Heck, if you have $500 a year to throw at the process of obtaining a license, may-issue is probably not much of an issue either.

    NJ has ~8.7M people. If 3% of the people applied and obtained a license, that would be ~261k. If the fee were $100 for 2 years ($50/yr), that is $13M more income if they went that way. Contrast that with the ~1k permits in NJ today. If every one of those permits renewed on the new fee schedule, that would be $0.5M/yr in income.

    I don't think they are doing it for the revenue...