This is crazy. I would still have to give my mom a good talking too if she made this call though.
http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/15/b ... ns-mistake
http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/15/b ... ns-mistake
Truly asinine on the judges part. I would think there are grounds for an easy appeal. I hope the Second Amendment Foundation gets involved.Lurch76 said:This is crazy. I would still have to give my mom a good talking too if she made this call though.
http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/15/b ... ns-mistake
:faint:To buy a gun in New Jersey, you must go through a laborious process to obtain a "purchaser's permit." But that permit doesn't entitle you to possess a gun. A few select groups of people, mostly off-duty police officers and security personnel, can obtain carry permits. But anyone else with a gun is presumed to be violating state law and must defend against the charge of illegal gun possession by claiming one of the state's exemptions.
Evan Nappen, who is representing Aitken in his appeal, likens the process to claiming self-defense in a murder case. "If you kill someone because they're about to kill you first," he says, "you're still guilty of homicide. You have to prove you should be granted the exception for self-defense. It's the same thing for just about all New Jersey gun owners. You're guilty until you prove that you're innocent.â€
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In a telephone interview, [Judge] Morley (who lost his job when Gov. Christie declined to reappoint him in June because of rulings in unrelated cases) says he didn't allow the jury to consider the moving exception because "it wasn't relevant."
:lol:reminds me of "THE COWBOY WAY" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZv0h4Tt ... re=relatedGFLinTX said:.
In other news, reading about the cases that got Morley dismissed, one of them involved a man receiving oral sex from a cow. Legality and morality aside, how could anyone think that's a smart thing to do? I've seen that obnoxious way cows chew, and I'm pretty sure sticking your junk in its mouth is a really crappy idea. Yuck.
Ditto!Metalheadisme said:Would the implied level of scrutiny from McDonald as applying to the states be applicable in an appeal in this case?
Either way, and appeal should be a no-brainer for the judge's egregious behavior.
As a former resident, I can confirm, New Jersey sucks.
WHAT???!!! Are you kidding me?! This completely defies the laws of sanity!in 2008 the New Jersey legislature and then-Gov. John Corzine changed the law to make the penalty for possessing a gun the same as the penalty for using it to commit a separate crime. That means someone like Aitken gets the same punishment as someone who assaults another person with a gun.
why can't they pump their own gas?gruntpain1775 said:Brought to you by the state that doesn't allow you to pump your own gas...
Morons in the legislature who have no understanding of economics and have never read Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt, which should be required reading for anybody holding office. They think it creates jobs. Maybe they should make you turn over your car for somebody else to drive it up to the pump, and somebody else to drive it back to where you are waiting. This, with the gas pumper, would create three jobs instead of just one. Why, the possibilities for job creation are endless if you are a moron.samman23 said:why can't they pump their own gas?gruntpain1775 said:Brought to you by the state that doesn't allow you to pump your own gas...