NEW GUN LAW

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by John ), Mar 23, 2018.

  1. John )

    John ) Member

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    The news is reporting the is new gun laws in the spending bill Trump just signed. Anyone know what it is?
     
  2. Daniel1968

    Daniel1968 New Member

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    Fix NICS and bumpstock ban i think
     
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  3. UtiPossidetis

    UtiPossidetis American

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    Those are the two that we supposedly know about......
     
  4. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    Correct
     
  5. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Can anyone get hold of those line numbers and post them here?
     
  6. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    I believe the bumpstock ban is not in that bill and will be processed through the Rule Making procedure and be dealt with that way.

    Nemo
     
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  7. John )

    John ) Member

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    So buy bump stocks now and watch them increase in value 500%.
     
  8. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    A few problems come to mind to keep them legal:
    1 - They would have to be declared "machine guns" or "machine gun conversion parts."
    2 - An amnesty would have to be declared to get them registered and the tax paid.
    3 - They would have to be serialized.
    4 - No new ones could be built because post May 19, 1986 machine guns are illegal for citizens to own per the Hughes Amendment to the 1986 FOPA.
     
  10. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    When ATF declared open-bolt semi-auto pistols to be "Machineguns" because they were too easily converted to full auto (just remove one part, or touch the bolt to a grinding wheel for a few seconds), back in 1982, they said that this ruling would not apply to any semi-auto open-bolt pistol that was legally owned prior to the date ATF's ruling came out (but, later when the Hughes Amendment passed in 1986, that ended the ability to file a Form 1 and "make" a MG out of them, pay the tax, and get them properly registered. Thus, the open-bolt pistols made from the 1960s through 1982 are legal while being unregistered but only so long as they're not actually converted.)

    If ATF did the same thing for bump stocks, that would be bad for us, because they could say that while the stocks THEMSELVES, not attached to any gun, are covered by a grandfather clause, attaching them to any firearm is "making" a post-1986 machinegun. Which can't be done legally except by SOT manufacturers building military or law enforcement guns.

    If ATF's grandfather clause allowed for bump stocks to be both owned and USED on the semi-auto guns they were intended for, great. Buy them now and they'll be worth a fortune later. Tens of thousands of dollars, potentially. (When an M16 sells for $100,000 in the future, maybe people will say that a bump-fire AR semi is "close enough" to pay just 1/10 of that).
     
  11. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Unlike things like open bolt actions, DIASs and LLs, bump stocks can be replicated for free with your finger. A potential value of a $zillion could be wishful thinking. We'll have to how this all works out.