I CC a Judge. In every forum there is all I ever see is how the Judge is a gimmick. I also read about how .410 loads are ineffective at self defense. Myself, I carry a mixture of Winchester PDX-1 .410 shells, and Federal Premium OOO Buck. I sometimes throw in some Hornady lever-action .45 Colts for good measure. Back to my point... I am wanting to test various 2Â½" .410 loads that someone would use in self defense applications shot through, of course, a Judge. I sold my Ultra Light that had a 3" barrel so the testing would be done through a Public Defender model with a 2" barrel. What I am looking for is ideas pertaining to the medium the rounds should be shot into, different rounds that y'all would like to see tested, and the kind of information that would be most helpful. Now with that said, let me also say that I'm not made of money, so there won't be 10 different ammo types shot into huge 60lbs of meat (although that was a sweet test). I don't have a chrono, but I can post the velocity on the box. I'm thinking more of penetration, expantion (on slugs), wound cavity, etc... So, give me your input please, and if you would even care to see the results.