Nathan Deal Signs Campus Carry Allowing Guns in Public Colleges

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  1. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

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    https://gov.georgia.gov/press-releases/2017-05-04/deal-signs-hb-280

    Deal signs HB 280

    May 4, 2017


    Gov. Nathan Deal today signed HB 280, which permits weapons carry license holders to carry firearms in specific and limited areas on college campuses.

    This legislation addressed major concerns voiced by the governor last year regarding HB 859, which permitted a weapons carry license holder to carry a concealed weapon into certain areas of a college campus that had previously been prohibited. HB 859 failed, however, to address Deal’s concerns regarding the prohibition of firearms in “sensitive places,” including campus preschools, disciplinary hearings, or faculty and administrative offices. As a result, the legislation was vetoed.
    This year, the General Assembly overwhelmingly passed HB 280, which maintains the same restrictions present in HB 859. It also addresses the areas of campus over which Deal previously raised concerns, along with additional areas of college campuses where weapons would not be permitted.
    “It is altogether appropriate that weapons not be allowed in sensitive areas on college campuses, and I appreciate the thoughtful consideration given by the General Assembly in expanding these excluded areas within a college campus in this year’s bill,” said Deal. “While HB 280 addresses the rights and restrictions relating to weapons carry license holders on a college campus, it in effect may have greater significance for students who are going to or coming from a campus. Unfortunately, in parts of the state, the path to higher education travels through dangerous territory.
    “At the present time, assailants can, and do, target these students knowing full well that their victims are not permitted to carry protection, even those who are weapons carry license holders, because they are either going to or coming from a campus where no weapons are allowed. In recent years, we’ve witnessed college students fall victim to violent attacks in or while traveling to libraries and academic buildings, and while traveling to and from their homes to class.
    “As this legislation is more narrowly tailored as to exclude areas on a college campus, I’ve signed HB 280.”
    The signing statement is available under "Related Files" below.
    HB 280 prohibits the carrying of a concealed weapon by anyone, including weapons carry license holders, on the following areas of a college campus:

    • Buildings or property used for athletic sporting events;
    • Student housing, including but not limited to dormitories, fraternity and sorority houses;
    • Any preschool or childcare space;
    • Any room or space being used for classes related to a college and career academy or other specialized school;
    • Any room or space used for classes in which high school students are enrolled through a dual enrollment program, including, but not limited to, classes related to the “Move on When Ready Act”;
    • Any faculty, staff, or administrative offices; and,
    • Rooms where disciplinary proceedings are conducted.
     

  2. atlsrt44

    atlsrt44 Well-Known Member

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    Uh so it looks like you can carry everywhere except college campuses lol
     
  3. 70755

    70755 Guest

    As I read it, that press release does not distinguish between public and private universities. HB280's provisions only apply to public colleges but this release could lead someone who is less informed on the topic to think that all colleges are covered by this bill.
     
  4. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Good for the public colleges. Not so good for the private colleges, as they will now be perceived as a much softer target by criminals, crazies, and terrorists.

    If I were a student at a private college, I'd be wanting to see a MUCH greater presence of armed security on campus to keep me safe. I hope the private schools have the $$$ to spend on upgrading their security, and I'm not talking about more cameras to capture the carnage, but more armed police and security personnel.

    Perhaps the GA General Assembly and the Governor will pass a little freedom along to licensed adults on private campuses next time.
     
  5. johnski

    johnski Well-Known Member

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    hunh???? So no classrooms or outdoor spaces where classes or "outdoor lectures" ??
     
  6. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    You can't read that one excerpt and understand the exclusion. Read the complete bill and its definitions.
     
  7. UtiPossidetis

    UtiPossidetis American

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    So, the imaginary lines all through Atlanta for "campuses" now are not a technical violation but nearly every other "space" on a public campus is potentially off limits and there is no reasonable mechanism to know ahead of time which "spaces" are and which aren't off limits.
     
  8. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Is the use of Open Records Act Requests a valid way to find out if specific college classrooms have dual enrollment students? We do, after all, want to know which ones they are in order to follow the law.
     
  9. polus

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    I think you'd get a resounding no to that request. FERPA prohibits disclosing information about students to third parties. And, it doesn't matter if they're not 18 yet. Once they attend a secondary institution (public or private), all rights granted under FERPA transfer exlusively to the student.

    https://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/students.html
     
  10. UtiPossidetis

    UtiPossidetis American

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    You'll have bureaucrats asserting such, certainly. Problem is FERPA protects INDIVIDUALS from disclosure but not statistics or information about groups and patterns containing that individuals data.
     
  11. ForsythGlock

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    I would not be surprised if many schools find a way to have a high school kid in about every class next year.
     
  12. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Code Section 20-4-37 definitions:

     
  13. rmodel65

    rmodel65 Yukon Cornelius

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    maybe the intro classes but not in your 2nd or 3rd year classes
     
  14. UtiPossidetis

    UtiPossidetis American

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    Ah, but how are you supposed to know? Are we going to make HS students wear special markers on college campuses? Perhaps a yellow star?
     
  15. Gunstar1

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    It's not the first stupid thing put in a law. The bar ban was for establishments whose revenues from alcohol were over 51% of their total. How do you know from the outside what their revenue is? We finally got that removed, but we had to live with that idiotic part for a couple of years.

    This is something that will be cleaned up later.
     
  16. rmodel65

    rmodel65 Yukon Cornelius

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    My question is are people who are exempt under 16-11-130 still exempt on campus from the new off limits places?
     
  17. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    See section 5 of HB 292, which has not yet been signed.

    Esp. lines 150-51.
     
  18. ForsythGlock

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    Will this become law if he does not veto it?
     
  19. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    He signed it yesterday. It will become law in July 1st.