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My first CC experience
I thought that I would share with you guys my first CC experience from years back.
I was carrying my full sized Kimber 1911 model in a Galco scout IWB holster. I was concealing it under a long, untucked camp shirt in the fall. I knew that no one could see it but I am sure I was favoring the gun.
We stopped to eat at the Varsity in downtown Atlanta. Because I knew I was favoring the hip, I decided not to wear it into the restaurant but there were some thuggish looking people paying particular attention to us and our car from the car next to us. They would have seen me take it off my hip and put it away. So I was stuck, I wasnt' leaving it to be stolen.
We went in and gave my wife the money to order and decided the safest thing to do was to sit down and keep cool. I had just sat down when a police officer that normally patrols the Varsity walked by and I thought .....' hmmm'. We made eye contact and I just gave him a nod of the head. I acted cool and then it happened. He walked on by and looked right back at the area where I had the gun behind my right hip. I thought "ahhh crap, he is going to come over here and make me pull it out and everyone is going to FREAK out and run....I am probably going to make the NEWS". But he kept going.
My wife finally came with the food and we ate. I waited for him to come by again...this time he glanced at the family with me and kept going. We were done so I told everyone that it was time to go and I took the tray and dumped it. I was talking to my wife at the time and turned around after dumping the tray and there he was again. Almost toe to toe. He asked me "how is it going?"....."Great, and you?"....."very well".....then I just stood there waiting for what happened next. He finally told me "have a good one"....."yeah, you too be safe".
After starting researching the horrid GA CC laws, I realized that had that cop wanted to arrest me, he probably could have done so without a bit of resistance. I think he might have thought I was perhaps an undercover cop or something similar....high and tight, jelly on my chin (that was a joke), etc.
Because of the CC laws in the state they are in, I would now leave it in the car for fear that he would call it a public gathering. But at the time, I was young and was excited about exercising my new rights.
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I was carrying my full sized Kimber 1911 model in a Galco scout IWB holster. I was concealing it under a long, untucked camp shirt in the fall. I knew that no one could see it but I am sure I was favoring the gun.
We stopped to eat at the Varsity in downtown Atlanta. Because I knew I was favoring the hip, I decided not to wear it into the restaurant but there were some thuggish looking people paying particular attention to us and our car from the car next to us. They would have seen me take it off my hip and put it away. So I was stuck, I wasnt' leaving it to be stolen.
We went in and gave my wife the money to order and decided the safest thing to do was to sit down and keep cool. I had just sat down when a police officer that normally patrols the Varsity walked by and I thought .....' hmmm'. We made eye contact and I just gave him a nod of the head. I acted cool and then it happened. He walked on by and looked right back at the area where I had the gun behind my right hip. I thought "ahhh crap, he is going to come over here and make me pull it out and everyone is going to FREAK out and run....I am probably going to make the NEWS". But he kept going.
My wife finally came with the food and we ate. I waited for him to come by again...this time he glanced at the family with me and kept going. We were done so I told everyone that it was time to go and I took the tray and dumped it. I was talking to my wife at the time and turned around after dumping the tray and there he was again. Almost toe to toe. He asked me "how is it going?"....."Great, and you?"....."very well".....then I just stood there waiting for what happened next. He finally told me "have a good one"....."yeah, you too be safe".
After starting researching the horrid GA CC laws, I realized that had that cop wanted to arrest me, he probably could have done so without a bit of resistance. I think he might have thought I was perhaps an undercover cop or something similar....high and tight, jelly on my chin (that was a joke), etc.
Because of the CC laws in the state they are in, I would now leave it in the car for fear that he would call it a public gathering. But at the time, I was young and was excited about exercising my new rights.
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Fortunately for me, my fear of being assaulted or killed is greater than that of an anti-gun LEO.
Welcome newarcher! :welcome:
GAGunOwner Wrote:
Do I exercise my right everywhere possible within the law and face a possible arrest, loss of income (due to lost job), and loss of money to pay for a lawyer, OR just say "eff" it and CC. If I get arrested and hauled off, even if it's totally bogus and thrown out of court, I will incur monetary losses and will probably lose my job (airline companies are real picky about folks they employ who check "YES" for the box "Have you ever been arrested?")
So what do I do? I've chosen to exercise my right. As easy as it would be to sheepishly CC and blend in, I can't. I want my children to see me stand up for what I believe in and do what I know to be right. I've always taught my kids by example and I can't stop now, nor will I.
Because, ya know, life is too short to sit back and hope things change. I want to be a part of change. There's a little known group of people that in 1776 stood up for a whole lot more. Least I can do is honor them and keep the torch lit.
GAGunOwner Wrote:
Alright, this similar to what I've been struggling with for a while.If you are that worried about being arrested, don't carry at all. It is that simple. If you aren't carrying, you can't be arrested for carrying in an off-limits place. In GA, if you want to adequately protect yourself you have to consider the fact that you might be hasselled or arrested when you are doing nothing illegal and you have to weight the pros and cons of carrying when you really aren't legally able to.
Do I exercise my right everywhere possible within the law and face a possible arrest, loss of income (due to lost job), and loss of money to pay for a lawyer, OR just say "eff" it and CC. If I get arrested and hauled off, even if it's totally bogus and thrown out of court, I will incur monetary losses and will probably lose my job (airline companies are real picky about folks they employ who check "YES" for the box "Have you ever been arrested?")
So what do I do? I've chosen to exercise my right. As easy as it would be to sheepishly CC and blend in, I can't. I want my children to see me stand up for what I believe in and do what I know to be right. I've always taught my kids by example and I can't stop now, nor will I.
Because, ya know, life is too short to sit back and hope things change. I want to be a part of change. There's a little known group of people that in 1776 stood up for a whole lot more. Least I can do is honor them and keep the torch lit.
I personally feel that anyone who makes the decision to carry should do so within their own comfort level. I personally choose to OC, however I am not against anyone's choice. That's the beauty of the right to bear arms - it's a freedom we have (albeit limited with the GA laws). If people choose not to carry at all, I don't have a problem with that. Not everyone is comfortable with it, and that's fine as well.AV8R said:Welcome newarcher! :welcome:
GAGunOwner Wrote:Alright, this similar to what I've been struggling with for a while.If you are that worried about being arrested, don't carry at all. It is that simple. If you aren't carrying, you can't be arrested for carrying in an off-limits place. In GA, if you want to adequately protect yourself you have to consider the fact that you might be hasselled or arrested when you are doing nothing illegal and you have to weight the pros and cons of carrying when you really aren't legally able to.
Do I exercise my right everywhere possible within the law and face a possible arrest, loss of income (due to lost job), and loss of money to pay for a lawyer, OR just say "eff" it and CC. If I get arrested and hauled off, even if it's totally bogus and thrown out of court, I will incur monetary losses and will probably lose my job (airline companies are real picky about folks they employ who check "YES" for the box "Have you ever been arrested?")
So what do I do? I've chosen to exercise my right. As easy as it would be to sheepishly CC and blend in, I can't. I want my children to see me stand up for what I believe in and do what I know to be right. I've always taught my kids by example and I can't stop now, nor will I.
Because, ya know, life is too short to sit back and hope things change. I want to be a part of change. There's a little known group of people that in 1776 stood up for a whole lot more. Least I can do is honor them and keep the torch lit.
My advice is to do whatever works best for you and your situation and comfort level and who cares what anyone else says.
It irks me to hear people complain about those who OC vs CC. Who cares, we're all on the same team at the end of the day fighting to keep our rights.
I guess it baffles me that people are so quick to judge other people for trying their best to adhere to the law. I guess it baffles me that so many people are willing to spend the time and money to attain a license only to intentionally break the law. Call me old fashioned, but it baffles me that a legislature would create an open ended carry law that leaves its citizens at the mercy of Police Officers who are often uninformed of the laws. It baffles me that people consider being deprived of your liberty for even a moment due to an unjust arrest a small thing.GAGunOwner said:Again, this isn't directed at any one person.
:soapbox:
It baffles me that people are so worried about a relatively minor misdemeanor when their life and the life of their family/friends is on the line.
:rant:
But that's just me.
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I have posted here before that I have carried in both DC and Chicago, so . . .
But I have also left the gun behind to comply with the law (especially as I get older and more law abiding).
I have a lot to lose over a misdemeanor arrest these days.
I DO want to change these laws, though. Quite badly.
But I have also left the gun behind to comply with the law (especially as I get older and more law abiding).
I have a lot to lose over a misdemeanor arrest these days.
I DO want to change these laws, though. Quite badly.
Amen.GAGunOwner said:A selection from Dr. King's Letter From Birmingham Jail.One may well ask: "How do you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all."
Now what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust.
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