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Most of you have heard about this nutjob representative of the "religion of peace" who shot up the Jewish center in Seattle. Some of you may have heard that he had a firearms license.

Is this true?

Well, this news story http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... web29.html says:

"The law-enforcement source said Haq had a license to carry a concealed weapon, though not the weapon that was used in the shootings."

Most of you probably know that states in the Pacific northwest do not register guns and therefore the license has no relationship to any firearm. The license in Washington does not identify the firearm to be carried. This casts doubt on the claim of a firearm license. THe law enforcement source is not named.

He had a charge of lewd conduct pending at the time of the shooting. Can one have a license with such a charge pending?
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
He had a charge of lewd conduct pending at the time of the shooting. Can one have a license with such a charge pending?
One ought to be able to have a license with any charge pending. I don't understand how the government can purport to deny a benefit to anyone because he has been accused but not convicted of a crime.
 

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jrm said:
Malum Prohibitum said:
He had a charge of lewd conduct pending at the time of the shooting. Can one have a license with such a charge pending?
One ought to be able to have a license with any charge pending. I don't understand how the government can purport to deny a benefit to anyone because he has been accused but not convicted of a crime.
I would imagine it is done the same way as when they take someones drivers license on a DUI charge before they even go to court....

Just playing Devils Advocate here... :evil:
 

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But, you do get due process in the DUI context. It is not just the accusation that gets your DL suspended. For GFLs, you just plain are ineligible because of the accusation.
 

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Lettuce knot stray two far from the topic at hand.

Does any won no weather 1 May re-sieve a fire arm license in Washington with such disabilities?
 

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Okay, okay.

"Lewd conduct" does not seem to be the name of an offense in WA. There is something called "maintaining a moral nuisance," RCW 7.48A.040, which is a civil offense for which one can receive a fine. In the definition of "moral nuisance," there is discussion of conduct that is lewd.

Maintaining a moral nuisance for a profit is a felony.

Being under accusation for a felony would prevent you from getting a CCW, but the civil offense would not.
 

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And so, what it the reaction? Arm the defenseless victims? NO! MORE GUN CONTROL!

We have created a legal committee that is staffed with several talented attorneys and we have them doing research right now to figure out what our best alternatives will be.

One of the other prongs is the legislative portion. That is really undefined right now. I think we will probably try to close the gun-show loophole again. But our legislative agenda isn’t set yet for next year.
Link to one year anniversary story
 

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Jew-ish: Is there evidence that a significant portion of firearm violence comes through the gun-show loophole?

K.C.: The facts are very, very mixed and that is part of what we are pushing for this learnedness component of our new mission going forward. I know the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms] put out a study a few years ago that showed that a significant portion of gun purchases at gun shows turn up later in crimes. It’s an easy way for people who can’t buy guns to show up and buy guns without a check.
BS!
 

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Jew-ish: Is there evidence that a significant portion of firearm violence comes through the gun-show loophole?

K.C.: The facts are very, very mixed and that is part of what we are pushing for this learnedness component of our new mission going forward. I know the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms] put out a study a few years ago that showed that a significant portion of gun purchases at gun shows turn up later in crimes. It’s an easy way for people who can’t buy guns to show up and buy guns without a check.
BS!
BS x 2...they do run checks...it isn't any different than buying at a store in my experience.
 

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It's been my experience that the majority of sales at gun shows are sold by dealers with background checks being done.

It’s an easy way for people who can’t buy guns to show up and buy guns without a check.
My guess would be that the person who said this reads all of their Brady e-mails and has never even seen a gun show taking place, let alone gone to one.
 

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Well the leaders of the Brady BS and HGI certainly have seen a gun show. They certainly know that every dealer-person sale has 4473 associated with it.

They know the lies they are telling, and their followers trust them enough to have no need to find out on their own.

They DO want to end private transfers but by calling it the gun show loophole they get to kill two birds with one stone. I seem to remember that most gun show loophole closing laws included restrictions on holding the gun show, not just requiring that every transfer occur on a 4473.
 
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