Murder rates and politics

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by Thorsen, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

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    I thought it might be interesting to look at the murder rates of the top large cities in the US and compare it to what political party has been in power in that city and for how long. Information on crime rates came from the the FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Program.

    Murder rates are number per 100,000 of population. Cities are listed in order from worst on down in descending order. New Orleans was number one in 2004, but has been left off the list due to loss of population caused by Katrina.

    (1) Baltimore, Maryland - ran by democratic politicians since 1967
    (2) Detroit, Michigan - ran by democratic politicians since 1962
    (3) St Loius, Missouri - ran by democratic politicians since the 1940's
    (4) Washington D.C. - didn't check before 1975, but since elections have been held locally, democratic politicians have always held the office of mayor
    (5) Newark, New Jersey - stopped looking after I got to 1953, could be farther back than that, all democratic party politicians
    (6) Kansas City, Missouri - from the 1920's on all democratic politicians with the exception of one republican mayor who served from 1979-1991
    (7) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - democratic politicians since 1952
    (8 ) Cincinnati, Ohio - system of government is more complex, but has been dominated by democratic politicians since at least 1991
    (9) Cleveland, Ohio - since 1942 controlled by democratic politicians, with the exceptions of 1972-1977 and 1980-1989
    (10) Oakland, California - democratic party controlled since 1977
    (11) Atlanta, Georgia - democratic party controlled since at least 1962
    (12) Milwaukee, Wisconsin - last republican in office was in 1893, since that time the mayoral office has been won by either democratic party members or socialist party members
    (13) Memphis, Tennessee - from 1991 on has been democratic party controlled, prior to 1991 republican party controlled
    (14) Buffalo, New York - democratic party controlled since at least 1978
    (15) Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - controlled by democratic party since 1933
    (16) Nashville, Tennessee - dominated by democratic party since reconstruction
    (17) Dallas, Texas - council-manager government system, can't find a lot of information on the individual council members' party affiliations, but it appears to be primarily republican party controlled
    (18 ) Houston, Texas - although elected under a non-partisan voting system, since 1970 has been controlled by the democratic party
    (19) Chicago, Illinois - since 1931 has been democratic party controlled
    (20) Phoenix, Arizona - another council-manager government system, has been controlled by the democratic party since 2000, couldn't find any information prior to that

    Anyway, while correlation does not imply causation, I thought it was interesting that out of the top 20 cities in which you are most likely to get murdered in the US, all but one of them have been under democratic party control for a significant period of time.


    This is the kind of stuff I do when I can't sleep at night. Sad isn't it? :lol:
     
  2. GunNut

    GunNut New Member

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    Well....it doesn't really surprise me.
     

  3. GunNut

    GunNut New Member

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    I wonder what the 20 safest cities would look like.
     
  4. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    The top 20 number of GCO members' cities? :lol:
     
  5. wsweeks2

    wsweeks2 New Member

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    Do you expect places that are heavily populated by those sucking the government teat to vote Republican? They all know that Kanye was right and doesn't care about black people. :roll:
     
  6. adcurt

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    Man, you and I have similar interests. Below is the list of safest large cities, but wthout your in-depth research on who's runnin' it:

    SAFEST CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: 2006

    1. San Jose, CA
    2. Honolulu, HI
    3. El Paso, TX
    4. New York, NY
    5. Austin, TX
    6. San Diego, CA
    7. San Antonio, TX
    8. Louisville, KY
    9. Fort Worth, TX
    10. Jacksonville, FL
     
  7. Guest

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    Anybody else notice a city/state missing?
     
  8. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    60% of those cities reside in right to carry states.
     
  9. Claire

    Claire New Member

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    interesting stats
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Atlanta's murder rate is up 22% in ONE YEAR. In AJC Metro section today.
     
  11. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    Must be all the gang bangers with GFLs. :roll:
     
  12. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    No, it's GCO's fault.
     
  13. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    So sayeth the AJC's Maureen Downey and the Mayor of Kennesaw.
     
  14. adcurt

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    Anyone notice that the cities with the large rise in crime rates for late '06-early 2007 are all cities that took the bulk of the Katrina "refugees"?

    New Orleans didn't have the highest crime rate (Pre-Katrina and Post-Katrina) on coincidence.

    Houston is having inflated crime rates, too. Just curious if there could be a correlation or if I'm picking cherries.

    Totally different subject, and in no way connected to Katrina/N.O. (and you're a total racist if you would connect it), but who was it that said, "flood a house with rats and the neighborhood gets rats."? Just sayin'
     
  15. viper32cm

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    Also notice that Chicago is on the most dangerous list and has onerous firearms laws and New York is on the least dangerous list and has onerous firearms laws.

    Seems to me that guns either have a negative correlation to crime (more guns less crime) or no correlation. Either way, you can't look at the cities presented and say more guns=more crime. Which is great.