More "Zero Tolerance" nonsense.

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Macktee, Oct 30, 2007.

  1. Macktee

    Macktee New Member

    Just once, it would be refreshing to see a report to the effect...

    "The school principal stated, eventhough the student violated "zero tolerance", it was an honest mistake and no injuries resulted. Under the circumstances, no injuries could possibly have resulted. Therefore, no action will be taken against the student."

    Probably not gonna happen!

    For some reason, as soon as intelligent, hard-working and dedicated teachers are promoted into an administration position, they lose any and all semblance of intelligence, common sense and decision-making abilities. How sad...

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    17-year-old disciplined for shotgun shells at school

    District overreacted in punishing athlete for ammo in SUV, family says

    Erin Zlomek
    The Arizona Republic
    Oct. 29, 2007 12:00 AM

    Surprise high-school senior Kim Peters carries an Olympic identification badge and an Arizona skeet-shooting members' card, but neither got her out of a four-day suspension for bringing shotgun shells onto school grounds.

    The 17-year-old started competitive clay shooting her freshman year at the urging of her mom and stepfather.

    She has since won several trophies in the male-dominated sport and in August was one of 18 athletes across the nation to attend this year's Junior Olympic shooting camp in Colorado Springs, Colo.

    But the hobby got Peters into trouble last week. Willow Canyon High School administrators disciplined Peters after a security guard noticed two unopened boxes of the shells sitting in the back seat of the student's white sport utility vehicle. There was no gun.

    Peters said her 12-hours-a-week practice schedule got so hectic that she forgot to unload the ammunition from her vehicle as she was running late for school Tuesday morning.

    To beat the bell, she said she took a shortcut and parked in a visitors-only lot closest to the school. The guard spotted the shells while ticketing her for parking in the non-student area.

    Now, Peters fears the resulting punishment will cloud her permanent record as she applies to colleges. Her family is fighting the Dysart Unified School District to get the offense, possession of a "dangerous instrument," expunged.

    Administrators stand by their decision and rejected the family's first appeal last week.

    "We can never comment on a specific situation with a student (due to privacy laws), but what I can say is that whenever we are dealing with any infraction . . . our duties involve keeping students in a safe and secure environment," Dysart Superintendent Gail Pletnick said.

    Peters called her own actions "careless" but said she doesn't feel the punishment fits the crime.

    "They searched me and they searched my car," she said.

    Searchers discovered that Peters had cigarettes in the car, an offense also punishable by suspension. Though Peters technically violated three school rules, she was punished only for the shells, according to a Dysart disciplinary-incident form sent home with Peters.

    Arguing that Peters proved she regularly uses the shells for sport, her father, Tony, asked administrators to swap the ammunition offense for the cigarette offense. Tony said he felt anyone requesting his daughter's behavior records might be more sympathetic to a "tobacco" violation vs. a "dangerous instrument" violation. He said he feels the latter unfairly implies that his daughter brought a gun or bomb into the school building. When officials refused to make the swap, Tony accused the district of overreacting and trying to make an inappropriate example out of his daughter.

    The Peterses also cite a 2007 federal education statute that explicitly excludes shotguns and shotgun shells from being categorized as a destructive device because they are primarily used for sport. Despite the statute, districts are free to take disciplinary actions where they see fit, according to the Arizona Department of Education.

    Pletnick said that school shootings at Columbine High School and Virginia Tech have forced school districts everywhere to re-evaluate and tighten their safety standards.

    Peters said she is still trying to drum up support for her position and has started by contacting some of her target-shooting mentors.

    Zach Snow, a promotions coordinator with the National Shooting Sports Foundation, said other athletes have reported similar complaints in the past, prompting professional shooters and the National Rifle Association to come to their defense.

    He said the most notable case was when a group of students was sent home for wearing foundation T-shirts, which pictured a silhouette of a shooter holding a rifle. But Snow said to his knowledge, Peters' situation is the first of its kind.

    She is scheduled to return to school Tuesday.

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  2. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

    How does it work for schools what have shooting teams? Is all their gear kept/stored off campus? I would expect the ranges to be off campus, but the gear too?

  3. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

    Punished for cigarettes? Why should that be an extra school rule? I mean, she was already under 18.

    And how are shotshells more for competition than, say, .308 cartridges? What justifies one over the other? Lack of common sense?
  4. Macktee

    Macktee New Member

    Man possibly killed by his saggy pants

    Maybe the pants didn't kill him, but it sounds like they may have helped...: ... 905.html?4

    Oct. 29, 2007, 7:03AM
    HPD: Shooting suspect found dead, may have tripped

    Authorities say the man's shorts fell down to his thighs while he was fleeing

    Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle

    A man accused of shooting an off-duty Houston police officer was found dead Sunday in a thick grove of woods near the westside apartment complex where the officer was wounded, authorities said.

    The gunman, identified by police as Eric Titov, 22, apparently shot himself in the head following a violent confrontation about midnight with HPD officer Victor Hill at the Reserve by the Lake Apartments, 18600 South Park View, police said.

    It was unclear Sunday whether Titov committed suicide or shot himself accidentally.

    "Looks like his shorts fell down to his thighs; he may have actually tripped," HPD homicide Capt. Steve Jett said. "And, trying to catch himself with his hands, wound up pulling the trigger as he was falling."

    Investigators said Titov shot Hill while the officer, who lives at the complex, was questioning him about a car battery he was carrying.

    "I think he (Titov) was just straight-up burglarizing cars," said Sgt. Paul Motard, with HPD's homicide division. "He was very high on drugs and acting in a bizarre manner."

    Hill, a 14-year veteran assigned to HPD's Northwest Patrol Division, handcuffed Titov behind his back, as is department policy.

    "The suspect produced a pistol from his back waistband and fired upward," HPD spokeswoman Johanna Abad said.

    Although he was off-duty at the time, Hill was wearing an HPD raid jacket — with the word POLICE across his chest.

    "He (Titov) shot him right through the 'P' in police," Motard said.

    Hill was listed in critical condition at Memorial Hermann Hospital late Sunday.

    Titov also pointed the pistol at an apartment complex employee who was with Hill but did not fire, police said. Investigators said Titov, his hands still cuffed behind his back, ran away and apparently vaulted over a waist-high fence running along the north edge of the complex.

    The shooting set off a large-scale search of the area that lasted throughout the night. Police helicopters flew over the scene as HPD canine units searched for the gunman along the wooded area near Addicks Reservoir.

    The manhunt ended about 1 p.m. Sunday when Titov's body was spotted in the woods about 50 feet from the complex by a HPD helicopter using an infrared camera, Jett said.

    "He was still cuffed, but the cuffs are in front," Motard said.

    "He has the gun in his right hand and he has two bullets in his left hand.
    We don't know the significance of why he has two live rounds in his left hand."

    Police later Sunday were continuing to question Titov's acquaintances. They said he originally was from Russia but had lived in Houston for about 12 years.

    Apartment resident Carlos Varela said he did not hear the gunfire, but he saw helicopters overhead and a number of officers in the complex later.

    "It's crazy. It's the first time I've ever heard about something like this," said Varela, who has lived in the complex almost four years. "Sometimes I leave my garage door open and nothing happens. Now, my wife is telling me not to do that."
  5. Sine Nomen

    Sine Nomen New Member

    Yeah, because those guys only brought their guns to school be cause it wasn't against the rules and so they didn't have to fear suspension...

    Huh? Now a silhouette of someone holding a rifle is dangerous? Good grief!
  6. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    Ms. Pletnick, explain in detail how exactly your actions in this case contributed to that duty.
  7. SigP229

    SigP229 Active Member

    Remember the stick figure incident?
  8. tace

    tace New Member

    But, think of the children!

    Sorry, someone had to say it. :lol: