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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/17/merkel-obama-internet-disruptive-force/

Apparently blaming this rising populism - politics that are popular with voters - on the internet, the German chancellor implied the internet would have to be subject to restrictive censorship laws as were enacted by many European nations to stem the disruptive effect of the printing press. She said:

"Very often, it led to enormous transformational processes within individual societies and it took a while until societies learned to find the right kinds of policies to contain this, to manage and steer this. We live in a period of profound transformation."
The saying has been inherited by PEGIDA from the counter-Communist rule movements in East Germany in the 1980's. Merkel, a former member of an East German Communist group, said those words as a protest against overbearing government power and had brought joy to her then but not today. She said:

"At the time when we had [this saying] in the GDR [East Germany] when the people stood in the streets and said 'we are the people' it filled me with great joy, but the fact these people have hijacked it does not fill me with joy."
This week Germany's Zeit newspaper published a piece calling for controls to prevent "a German Donald Trump", while Britain's Independent former newspaper website published a list of "fake" news sites which they claimed may have "swayed votes towards Donald Trump". One of those listed was Breitbart News.
Merkel wants to silence dissent on the internet using the power of the state. She is a straight-up East German Communist through and through-literally.
 

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The most important and noble task of politicians these days is to see that each and every person can find his place.
Boy, that's Brave New World talk right there. :puke:
 

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Of course German Chancellor Angela Merkel doesn't want a Donald Trump happening in Germany. He'd be for restoring to people the right to keep and bear arms, something a communist cannot bear. They cannot keep power unless they have all the guns.
 

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Merkel: "these deplorables have hijacked it"
 

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If the Internet had been around when Hitler rose to power, I wonder what he would have thought of it....
 

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I'm not crazy about fake news either. I can't decide if the Internet makes it easier to disseminate fake news than to discredit it. My fear is that it is the former, and I'm not talking about opinion pieces, I'm referring to blatant lies presented as truth. A dangerous thing in the wrong hands, especially coupled with an ability to block the discredits.
 

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I'm not thinking about it in terms of political BS, rather the implications durnig something like a national emergency.
Individuals must always be the deciders of news truthfulness and only for themselves. Having some public arbiter of news is a very, very dangerous thing.
 

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Individuals must always be the deciders of news truthfulness and only for themselves. Having some public arbiter of news is a very, very dangerous thing.
I agree.
I just personally think fake news is not a good thing.
I wonder how a really well coordinated "Orson Wells" would play out in these times.
 

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If the Internet had been around when Hitler rose to power, I wonder what he would have thought of it....
The memes and Alex Jones would have been off the chain haha:rotfl:
 

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I agree.
I just personally think fake news is not a good thing.
I wonder how a really well coordinated "Orson Wells" would play out in these times.
I find the fake news sites annoying but its their right to be i guess.
 

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Fake news sites? They mean like state-run CNN, FOX MSNBC, NBC, ect?
 

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Fake news sites? They mean like state-run CNN, FOX MSNBC, NBC, ect?
Yes, those. And self decided truth sayer/spreader EJR914? Is that one so qualified?

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Yes, those. And self decided truth sayer/spreader EJR914? Is that one so qualified?

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I can understand not taking the red pill, it's a very hard decision. I understand its not for everyone.
 

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I can understand not taking the red pill, it's a very hard decision. I understand its not for everyone.
That does not answer the question.

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That does not answer the question.

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It does, it just requires you to think and reflect deeply and objectively, which is very difficult for many active posters on this website.
 
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