massacre at Canadian mosque

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GAfirearmsReference

Discussion Starter · Jan 30, 2017 (Edited)

somebody shot dozens of people at a mosque in Quebec, Canada.
Several victims dead.
2 suspects arrested. Cops are silent about any motive, but the media is speculating that they're white racists, since anti-immigrant groups are "active" in the city.
(I think that if they were white pseudo-Christians, that would have been news that the cops released IMMEDIATELY. So if cops are trying to 'figure out' a motive, I'd assume the killers are from another sect of Islam, or maybe even the same kind of Muslims as the victims, and the killings were motivated by political or tribe or gang affiliation, not really religion.)

http://www.ajc.com/news/killed-canada-mosque-shooting-trudeau-calls-terror/RpPca7LDaeAXPDpzqLnOoN/

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GAfirearmsReference

Discussion Starter · #2 · Jan 30, 2017

P.S. Canada's leftists are likely to use this incident to call for more gun control, regardless of what kind of weapon the shooter(s) used.
Canada has very strict gun control now, with a license required for any kind of weapon, and small, concealable handguns banned, and full sized handguns suitable for target shooting or hunting allowed only with a permit (a permit to OWN, not to carry. No such thing as "carry" in Canada-- it's unloaded and encased transportation only).

Canada has a 10-round magazine limit for all centerfire guns and any handgun magazine (even if it's a rimfire).

Canada has an "assault weapon" ban, but it has a lot of loopholes. AR and AK pattern rifles are allowed if they're the "sporting" kind with long barrels and non-folding stocks.

DonT

· #3 · Jan 30, 2017

Latest I saw here, 6 dead and 8 wounded, 2 suspects have been arrested. Canadian authorities are calling it an act of terrorism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...at-quebec-city-mosque/?utm_term=.4629bb063065

GAfirearmsReference

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 30, 2017

Prime Minister Trudeau just said: "Muslim-Canadians are an important part of our national fabric, and these senseless acts have no place in our communities, cities and country. Canadian law enforcement agencies will protect the rights of all Canadians..."

This, combined with his "terrorism" statement, is tantamount to announcing that non-Muslims perpetrated this crime BECAUSE of the religion of the victims. The attackers wanted to kill Muslims. That's it. That's the motive.

We'll see...

Malum Prohibitum

· #5 · Jan 30, 2017

"It seemed to me that they had a QuÃ©bÃ©cois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot, they yelled, 'Allahu akbar!' The bullets hit people that were praying. People who were praying lost their lives. A bullet passed right over my head.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686

Malum Prohibitum

· #6 · Jan 30, 2017

One was armed with an AK-47, a prohibited weapon, La Presse reported.
A witness, who asked to remain anonymous, told CBC's French-language service Radio-Canada that two masked individuals entered the mosque.
"It seemed to me that they had a Quebecois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot they yelled, 'Allahu Akbar!'

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-...a/news-story/57ad720cba7c2cd92efaa44d88eb6554

AtlPhilip

· #7 · Jan 30, 2017

"It seemed to me that they had a QuÃ©bÃ©cois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot, they yelled, 'Allahu akbar!' The bullets hit people that were praying. People who were praying lost their lives. A bullet passed right over my head.

Now, now. Let's not jump to any conclusions...

Malum Prohibitum

· #8 · Jan 30, 2017

Meanwhile, all of the American news outlets are carrying "Islamaphobia" stories and the Canadian Prime Minister issued a statement that said "Diversity is our strength."

No wonder it is taking the police so long to release names and motives. It is tough to come up with a politically correct twist if these reports (A) turn out to be true, and (B) the speakers are muslim.

From the same link:

"From what we heard over the phone, one person had a weapon discharged in his face because he had wanted to jump on the man to stop him. And three others died because they wanted to catch the man," Nadji said.
One of the gunmen left the mosque to reload and came back. He then ran out of bullets a second time, reloaded and returned for a third round of shooting, Nadji told the Gazette.

Malum Prohibitum

· #9 · Jan 30, 2017

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/825957813407072256

Unconfirmed Quebec television report that one arrestee has an Arabic name.

Malum Prohibitum

· #10 · Jan 30, 2017

From the mosque's live Facebook feed

"This is the result of Trump," says a bystander in Arabic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/29/shooting-quebec-city-mosque_n_14485332.html

Malum Prohibitum

· #11 · Jan 30, 2017

AtlPhilip said:
Now, now. Let's not jump to any conclusions...

LOL! They could be white nationalists who yelled that as a sick joke. We just don't know. The fact that the politically correct government there is taking so long to release more information (even though they have already stated that they believe they have the correct two guys and do not think there are any more suspects) leads me to believe these two are probably muslim. They just do not yet know how to spin the statement to the press.

Besides, as the post above says, no matter what, it is the result of Trump.

AtlPhilip

· #12 · Jan 30, 2017 (Edited)

Malum Prohibitum said:
The fact that the politically correct government there is taking so long to release more information (even though they have already stated that they believe they have the correct two guys and do not think there are any more suspects) leads me to believe these two are probably muslim. They just do not yet know how to spin the statement to the press.

This. And you see the same BS game playing here, even in non-terrorism related incidents. For example, if a police officer shoots a citizen you will know if it's justified in 24-48 hours. If it is justified, official videotape will be released ASAP. If it is not justified, they will make a statement that it is policy not to release evidence in an ongoing investigation.

Malum Prohibitum said:
Besides, as the post above says, no matter what, it is the result of Trump.

How did we get to a place where the words "We attacked you because you elected {insert name}" make them the victim and us the bad guy? You see it all the time now. Agent provocateurs create violence at a Trump rally, it's Trump's fault. Democrats attacks a man in the streets and yell Trump slurs, it's Trump's fault.

jgullock

· #13 · Jan 30, 2017

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html

Police arrest Alexandre Bissonnette and Mohamed Khadir over Quebec City mosque massacre a day after Canadian PM condemned Trump immigration ban

Two students including one of 'Moroccan origin' have been arrested for the slaughter of six people at a Quebec mosque which came a day after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned Donald Trump's controversial travel ban.

Mrs_Esterhouse

· #14 · Jan 30, 2017 (Edited)

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moe mensale

· #15 · Jan 30, 2017

GAfirearmsReference said:
Prime Minister Trudeau just said: "Muslim-Canadians are an important part of our national fabric, and these senseless acts have no place in our communities, cities and country. Canadian law enforcement agencies will protect the rights of all Canadians..."

This, combined with his "terrorism" statement, is tantamount to announcing that non-Muslims perpetrated this crime BECAUSE of the religion of the victims. The attackers wanted to kill Muslims. That's it. That's the motive.

We'll see...

Yes, because, heaven forbid, there's no such thing as muslim on muslim crime just like there's no such thing as black on black crime.

How about a perspective from someone not aligned with the MSM? Note the introduction.

Malum Prohibitum

· #16 · Jan 30, 2017

A second man, Mohamed el Khadir, was previously identified by authorities as a suspect. He was taken into custody near the mosque and questioned, but Quebec Provincial Police said in a tweet Monday afternoon that he is no longer considered to be a suspect. He is now being called a witness.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexa...-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Malum Prohibitum

· #17 · Jan 30, 2017

The white guy dialed 911, said he felt badly about what he had done, and basically turned himself in. Sounds like a mental case.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexa...-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Malum Prohibitum

· #18 · Jan 30, 2017

Witnesses told Reuters that two to three gunmen opened fire on worshippers inside the mosque Sunday night.

But police now say Bissonnette was the lone shooter.

Malum Prohibitum

· #19 · Jan 30, 2017

Facebook page is deleted now (along with AtlPhillip's), but here are some comments from before it was taken down:
RichardL says
January 30, 2017 at 9:52 am

there is a Facebook profile of a Alexandre Bissonette studying at Universite Laval, but that guy is so far away from a jihadi as one can be. He is also a fan of Marine le Pen. But the picture of him in the newspapers are the same as on this Facebook page. The guy must be insane. I doubt he is a Muslim.

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krusty1234 says
January 30, 2017 at 10:08 am

We don’t really know yet. The fact he was following Marie le Pen doesn’t mean anything. Because she is recommending extreme vetting requests for France, she has many Islamic hate groups “following” her, many radicals have been reported threatening her on her Facebook account.

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RichardL says
January 30, 2017 at 10:24 am

he is into feminism. Nothing about allah or Muslim causes.

Either that guy is the smartest undercover jihadi or he is simply insane and Mohamed took him along to a typical islamic outing

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Malum Prohibitum

· #20 · Jan 30, 2017

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...remain-in-critical-condition-following-attack

Police now say only one of the two people arrested after Sundayâ€™s terror attack on a mosque in Quebec City is a suspect, with the second man considered a witness.
. . .
Quebec City police Insp. Denis Turcotte said the man who called 911 waited for officers to arrest him not long after the shooting at the Centre Culturel Islamique de Quebec in Quebec Cityâ€™s Ste-Foy neighbourhood.

â€œHe was armed and spoke to us about his acts,â€ said Turcotte. â€œHe seemed to want to co-operateâ€¦.The suspect said he was waiting for the police to arrive.â€

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