Masks Are Useless

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by Nemo, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Something most agree with.

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    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-
     
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  2. NTA

    NTA Well-Known Member

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    That study was buried for months. It eventually wiggled out.
     

  3. zetor

    zetor Well-Known Member

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    Saying they are useless doesn’t make a lick of sense. If you don’t agree with mandates, then that’s a different argument to be made. They are filters. No oil or air filter catches 100% of particles, so are they useless?
     
  4. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    They are about as good as catching flies with chicken wire.
     
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  5. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Maybe when dealing with micros but work great at filtering out other dust and particles that can get into your lungs when doing construction or yard work and such.
     
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  6. seereus

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    My physician agrees that mask are not practical nor do they help. He has a sign on his door that states mask are not mandatory to enter his offices.
     
  7. jrm

    jrm Sledgehammer

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    A filter that captures only a small minority of its intended targets is not useful.
     
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  8. psrumors

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    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmp2006372

    "We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection."
    ". A mask will not protect providers caring for a patient with active Covid-19 if it’s not accompanied by meticulous hand hygiene, eye protection, gloves, and a gown. A mask alone will not prevent health care workers with early Covid-19 from contaminating their hands and spreading the virus to patients and colleagues."
     
  9. Clark

    Clark Well-Known Member

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    If you're in Georgia, who do you use? You can DM me the answer if you don't wish to name him publicly.
     
  10. HJB

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    So he thinks all of these health care people that are working to save lives in covid care areas in emergency rooms and hospitals are just kidding themselves wearing all of that PPE I guess.

    I think I would probably find a different doctor.
     
  11. Clark

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    Frankly, yes. Unless it's a canister filter, or a full clean suit with its own air supply, viral particles will get through. Really any surgical procedure should require such. Something like what you see at this link: https://www.thigmbh.at/products/vivi/
     
  12. zetor

    zetor Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be arguing against a point not made that masks are an end all measure.
     
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  14. psrumors

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    Unless everything else is in place, like meticulous hygiene, masks are usless.....

    We now know 6 feet isn't enough....we have known for years people's hygiene is less than stellar, so, considering everything else is lacking....how are masks supposed to help?
     
  15. zetor

    zetor Well-Known Member

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    Not even a circular argument. It's a run against a wall, bounce back and do it again.
     
  16. psrumors

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    The NEJM states masks only work with a host of other processes to which you agree....what happens when the host of other processes are removed?
     
  17. zetor

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    They are not an end all measure in reducing transmission numbers. Not sure WTF your point is? Your NEJ source is a perspective piece. I've provided a bit more than that
     
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  18. seereus

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    I am fine with my current physician. Unlike others physicians he simply states the truth. These cheap mask that are being forced into our lives do nothing to stop the spread of the China virus.
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    There is a huge difference in REAL PPE vs these cheap mask that people are currently wearing.
     
  19. HJB

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    Yea, I think I'd probably still find another doctor. Give me his name and phone number because I want to call and ask him if he really believes what you say. I don't think he said that. So what is him name and phone number please ?