Man Shoots Bear In Self Defense - Gets Charged

Discussion in 'In the News' started by moe mensale, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, the Gatlinburg, TN police would prefer you be mauled and/or killed rather than defend your life from certain death. That, after all, is what they get paid the big bucks to do. Yeah, right. Mr. Sapp will, of course, be fighting the charges.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/11/bl...th-45-on-second-floor-of-motel/#axzz66OV5ZXU2
     
  2. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    Doesn't sound right. Shooting to save your life should be a defense to reckless conduct, disturbing the peace, discharging a firearm in the City, and any other BS charge they could come up with. Is Ammoland presenting both sides of the story, or twisting the facts to suit the Kimber-packer and to get a bunch of gun nuts excited and push a bunch of web traffic to Ammoland's site?
     

  3. Malum Prohibitum

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    The cartridges were Federal HST rounds, an aggressive hollow-point design made for defense against humans. The Kimber Ultra Carry II has a three inch barrel, which likely reduces the velocity by 10-15% compared to a standard five inch barrel.

    One neighbor said they had seen the bear previously, and believed it to be 500 lbs. Greg initially thought it was 350-400 lbs. Everyone agrees it was a big black bear.

    In early November, with plentiful food, it would have had four inches of fat on, under the skin.

    The HST rounds probably did not penetrate far enough to reach the bear's vitals.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

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    Best to always carry 10mm Hornady XTP rounds (loaded hotter by Underwood), just in case of black bears
     
  5. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    9mm FMJ would suffice in the face of a big ass bear. They'll penetrate deeper.

    Ballistics aside, those cops are dicks.
     
  6. smn

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    The adrenaline dump was limited to his internals and didn't leave any other visible streaks.
     
  7. Dawgdoc

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    I saw this story on a local source a few days before it was posted before. Based on the comments, it seem locals were assuming he was too quick to shoot because they see bears all the time and just yell at them. I think the charges are based on emotion and not a clear understanding of TN use of force laws.

    Here is an example:
    https://www.wbir.com/article/news/l...motel/51-32d421aa-0888-462b-8504-15b86bb03dbb
     
  8. atlsrt44

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    Im with GS on this one. I dont think we are getting the whole story
     
  9. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Were they there with Mr. Sapp? No? Then STFU. Let's not forget that Sapp's dog may have been the reason the bear charged him.

    Cougars can be "friendly." Panthers can be "friendly." Deer can be "friendly." Any wild animal can be "friendly" until they decide not to be for whatever reason. There are stories of "friendly" wild turkeys attacking people in the Boston suburbs this week. Actually the turkeys do this all year round there and have been forever. These aren't domesticated animals. Some people need to learn to differentiate the world of "Bambi" from reality.

    Here's a silly idea. Let's check the videos and verify (or not) Mr. Sapp's story! #-o

    If bears are known to roam the landings and stairs of the motel then it's obvious they will eventually have a run-in with humans. It happens anyplace where they interact with us. Why is that so difficult to understand?