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Hard to believe that they actually got the ATF to investigate this.
 

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Can NC residents not form a trust and avoid the whole CLEO thing? Is that GA specific?
 

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Aberk said:
Can NC residents not for a trust and avoid the whole CLEO thing? Is that GA specific?
Not Georgia specific. North Carolina, however, has more restrictive laws than Georgia concerning machine guns.

Oh, and if this article does not convince you to go to medical school, then I do not know what will.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
Aberk said:
Can NC residents not for a trust and avoid the whole CLEO thing? Is that GA specific?
Not Georgia specific. North Carolina, however, has more restrictive laws than Georgia concerning machine guns.

Oh, and if this article does not convince you to go to medical school, then I do not know what will.
It convinced me not to allow my parents to sell the 14 acres we currently shoot on in Cherokee county.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/12/27/1934715/firing-range-is-a-target-of-concern.html

Cause if you fork over the money for a 4,500 sf house, you deserve to tell everybody around you to stop doing whatever they were already doing on their own land, right?

Held hostage . . . :roll:
Ahhh... just like the idiots that move next to an airport that has been operating for dozens of years, and then they complain about the noise and lobby to shut it down.
 

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Freaking city slickers.... I can't find much on the history of this guy in a brief search, but he was educated in New York City.....New York City!? Yup, at Pace (picante sauce) University. If I was betting on this, I'd put my money on this being another liberal yankee coming down to the south and failing to assimilate.
 

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Sounds (reads) like Land is well within his rights and has bent over backwards to accomodate the neighbors and schools. He was there first. He's spent his own money making the area safe. What do they expect him to do? Put up some kind of sound absorbing material? Convert his range to an indoor facility? Maybe the neighbors should pitch in and buy him some suppressors & pay for the tax stamp. :lol:
 

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If I was the doc and they ended up forcing me to stop firing his MG's the area would very quickly come to learn what the term "bump firing" means.
The day after the ruling came down I'd be out there every evening for a couple hours burning through mags of something loud as fast as I could.

I'll grant that if the noise is bad and you have issues with guns then sucks to move into an area unknowing of the existence of a range. But thems the breaks. Should have asked around better I guess.

If I was a kid and lived around there mom & dad would have a really hard time finding me when the bamflamming started; I'd be over asking the doc to let me shoot. :lol:
 

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Wow they are really demonizing full auto guns in this article. It sounds like the noise is the real issue here, but of course the article has to keep going back to the evil machine guns.

Forget the fact that an AR-10 in .308 (which is legal in almost every state with the proper magazine setup) would be louder and could be fired almost as fast.

Hell, a Mosin Nagant would be louder on a shot by shot basis than the .45 Thompson they keep referencing.
 

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Clearly one of the most left sided things I've seen a in a while.
Please feel free to e-mail the author Ames Alexander [email protected]
He must be bucking for "political officer" at his local Socialist party .
 

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I wish one of my neighbors had a range for full auto fire in their back yard. I would be over there all the time.
 

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I wish one of my neighbors had a range for full auto fire in their back yard. I would be over there all the time.
My 11 yo daughter would be there too.

This is a similar story as what happened last year in Bartow County. Creekside's neighbors complained to the County Commissioner about noise. The Commissioner then banned shooting at all county ranges at night and on Sunday, plus added new requirements that make it very hard for new ranges to be built. The Commissioner is a Republican.
 

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So - a related question:

Suppose you are shown & buy a house, which later you find out is near, let's say, a drag strip which only operates during the evening. So all was quiet during the daytime tours you took.

Does a real-estate agent bear any responsibility to mention the existence of the drag strip? Seems like if there is anyone to blame it would be the realtor for failing to reveal what might be considered a 'defect' and the prospective owner for failing to do due diligence.
 

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:rant: I'm tired of the "We bought the property for X and if the neighbor does Y it ruins our intentions" shtick, especially when Y was preexisting. This extends to people who bought a house on the interstate, train tracks, across from the stadium, or near a range and includes the crazies that think their neighbors should never be allowed to change anything on adjacent property such as fences, trees, lighting, or even building a house.

Your property, your rules, my property, my rules.

I am curious how many range experts were consulted before they finally got one that said "OMG YES, bullets could leave the range!!!" I'm also curious if the construction noise, smells, or debris ever bothered the preexisting neighbor.
 

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It pays to do due diligence prior to buying a house.

When we lived in Kentucky, we were just down the road from the state reformatory. Never was a problem. Most of our neighbors were LEOs and if anyone did escape, he headed for the main highway, not to a nearby subdivision. Although, when that did happen, the sirens could be a bit loud, which wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

New neighbors moved in from Florida. Prior to the sale, they visited at night and noticed all the lights. So, they asked the relator what was that place a few miles over the hill.

With a perfectly straight face and honest expression, he told them it was a "state vocational school".

Well, the "students" did learn to make license plates...
 
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