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I was treating my wife to a show this past weekend for her birthday. In addition to enjoying the play, I was of course enjoying one our most cherished American freedoms -- namely to keep & bear arms. Between Acts, refreshments were served -- amoung the offerings were wine. Crap, I thought -- accidental misdemeanorer. Then I realized they weren't actually 'selling' the alcoholic beverage. Sure they did have a jar up marked 'donations for refreshments' but they didn't make me pay for the coke-cola I had just drank... wait... what does the law say? I know, I'll check the back of my permit... "establishments at which alcohol are sold for consumption on the premises"... I'm pretty sure they're not selling... the donation jar has me a little edgy... I don't see a pouring license on the wall. I think I was in the clear that evening... anyone see it differently?
 

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Personally ( :ianal: ) I would be very, very careful about carrying, and would make sure that if I did, it was deeply concealed.
 

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If you paid to get in then they may consider the refreshments to be included in the price of admission and say that amounts to sale for consumption on the premises.....
 

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I continuously read members asking questions about the legality of concealed or open carrying in various situations. And them several members, some very educated making assumptions on what the ruling might be. I questions is: why don't we send all these questions to the Attorney General for either a formal or informal response. Secondly, I may be missing something here, but it also seems there is much discussion about changing the CCW laws but I have seen no organized effort to that goal. Please point me in the right direction if I am missing that.
 

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I continuously read members asking questions about the legality of concealed or open carrying in various situations. And them several members, some very educated making assumptions on what the ruling might be. I questions is: why don't we send all these questions to the Attorney General for either a formal or informal response. Secondly, I may be missing something here, but it also seems there is much discussion about changing the CCW laws but I have seen no organized effort to that goal. Please point me in the right direction if I am missing that.
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Re: CCW Questions

Dan4010 said:
I continuously read members asking questions about the legality of concealed or open carrying in various situations. And them several members, some very educated making assumptions on what the ruling might be. I questions is: why don't we send all these questions to the Attorney General for either a formal or informal response. Secondly, I may be missing something here, but it also seems there is much discussion about changing the CCW laws but I have seen no organized effort to that goal. Please point me in the right direction if I am missing that.
1. The Attorney General only answers questions from members of the government. If it is the state government, it is an official (binding) opinion. If it is a local governemtn, it is unofficial (non binding). So getting an opinion from the AG does not have any control over the city cops which are the ones that would be arriving to a man with a gun call.

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Greetings USMC and Gunstar,

USMC I sent in my fee and application to Gerogia Carry.org just under a week ago. So i am looking forward to being amember there. Gunstar, I am sure you must be correct, but it seems that if a group, Georgiapacking.org, sent a formal letter to the AG he would respond in some fashion. I think that is part of his job too. To answer questions of the public.
 

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GaGunOwner.... good job....hummmm I stand corrected.... That is really too bad though.... anyone should be able to get an opinion on a state law from the AG... Well I guess we need to get to work on trying to change these laws..... Maybe start by creating a petition of the three or four main laws we would like to see changes so we can submit it to a senator for sponser?
 

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If you paid to get in then they may consider the refreshments to be included in the price of admission and say that amounts to sale for consumption on the premises.....
I've often wondered if this logic applied in other situations as well. For instance, staying at an Embassy Suites that has an evening happy hour. While they are not 'selling' alcohol in the traditional sense of a per drink basis at the time of pick up, one does have to purchase a room. Seemed to me they were giving it away.

I also ran into a situation at a favorite restaurant on Hartwell where they had let their alcohol license lapse and were just giving it away for a week or so. They weren't selling it then, but it was an establishment where alcohol is sold for consumption. Although, perhaps once the license lapses, it is, by law, not an establishment where alcohol is sold for consumption.
 

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Well Gagunowner, as a public offical I would think that is his or at least his department responsibilty. But guess I am wrong. I really think that this group spends a great deal of time speculating about when where and how to carry. My experience has been all positive with LEO. I do not really think they are out to get anyone particularily a law abiding citizen. Every experience I ahve had with an LEO and my guns has been positive, most recently with Gwinnett County Sheriff officers. So I think if an LEO foiund you in an area where you are not suppose to be with your gun and you truely made a mistake that they wouold most likely ask you to leave asap and hopefully not arrest you. In most cases, I feel LEO are interested in real crimes. But I will admit I made be wrong. I mean how many folks have actually been arrrested for this things. The references I have read as examples all mostly invoved some sorta other crimes going on at the same time. But I will be interested to see what others think.
 

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Dan4010 said:
Well Gagunowner, as a public offical I would think that is his or at least his department responsibilty. But guess I am wrong. I really think that this group spends a great deal of time speculating about when where and how to carry. My experience has been all positive with LEO. I do not really think they are out to get anyone particularily a law abiding citizen. Every experience I ahve had with an LEO and my guns has been positive, most recently with Gwinnett County Sheriff officers. So I think if an LEO foiund you in an area where you are not suppose to be with your gun and you truely made a mistake that they wouold most likely ask you to leave asap and hopefully not arrest you. In most cases, I feel LEO are interested in real crimes. But I will admit I made be wrong. I mean how many folks have actually been arrrested for this things. The references I have read as examples all mostly invoved some sorta other crimes going on at the same time. But I will be interested to see what others think.
You think all LE interactions are positive?

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No, I did not say that all LEO experiences were postive, not do I believe that. I did say that all mine were positive. And I have read the treads you sent me before. I just stated that all my experiences have been positive. I realize like in all professions there are some jerks thus there are some jerks that are LEO's
 

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Re: CCW Questions

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I continuously read members asking questions about the legality of concealed or open carrying in various situations. And them several members, some very educated making assumptions on what the ruling might be. I questions is: why don't we send all these questions to the Attorney General for either a formal or informal response. Secondly, I may be missing something here, but it also seems there is much discussion about changing the CCW laws but I have seen no organized effort to that goal. Please point me in the right direction if I am missing that.
I called the Attorney General with a question once a couple weeks ago. The correct person was not in the office, I was told, so I was directed to voicemail. I left a message with my question and never heard back.

Pisses me off.

I do like the idea of bugging the hell out of the government while we attempt to understand their assanine laws.

Yeah, I'm cynical. These laws suck. I committed another felony today. *$&# lovely. :roll:
 
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