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Reminds me of the time I was partially disarmed and handcuffed while at a 2nd Amendment Right's event I participated in downtown Indianapolis.
A few years ago, a small group of my firearm friends and I met downtown Indianapolis at the City Market Building, which is directly across the street from the City County Building. We were all open carrying and assembled outside of the building while waiting for a few more to arrive. One of my buddies was carrying an MP5 strapped across his chest. We were handing out literature about the 2nd Amendment and Indiana Handgun Laws. There was maybe 8 of us that were all sort of grouped together just inside of the sidewalk path, so we could hand pamphlets to those passing by. All of a sudden, a swarm of uniformed officers close in on us from all directions. They surround us and started asking a series of questions, all starting off with asking for our identification and carry licenses.
As they called in all of our info and found there were no outstanding warrants for any of us, they were trying to determine what to do with us...they were trying to get us for something. A couple of officers started walking around us to see what we were all carrying and how we were carrying. Then, the officers started asking/telling each of us to decock and unload our our handguns. Each person did as instructed, but when they got to me, I respectfully declined, indicating that I was within my legal right to remain armed and would not disarm, as I had done nothing wrong. The officer got a perturbed look on his face as he reached to his duty belt and grabbed his handcuffs. I said, "you've got to be kidding me" as he told me to put my hands behind my back. At this point, I complied so I wouldn't get slapped with the bogus charge of resisting arrest for no crime being committed.
After being cuffed, he reached for my handgun, to which I quickly asked him to lock it prior to removing it from the holster. He did manage to lock it, then removed it from the holster and proceeded to unload every round out of the magazine and also un-chambered the live round. I had a book bag I was carrying with all of the pamphlets in it, it was sitting in front of me at my feet. He placed the mag and the unloaded rounds on the bag, while sticking my handgun in his back pocket. I asked if I was being arrested and he said no, just detained until they sort everything out. I remained cuffed for over 30 minutes while they were deciding what to do with us. During this whole event, I still had my 2nd carry handgun that was in my back pocket, easily accessible with my hands behind my back. On top of that, I also had my carry knife in my front pocket as well. The officer was simply an idiot and didn't follow proper procedure to insure I was disarmed. He just assumed that once he took my open carry handgun that I was disarmed.
I filed a complaint with the police department about my rights being violated, but after a few months of calling to find out the status, I gave up, as they were determined to sweep it under the rug. They always gave me some excuse, saying it was being reviewed or just got passed to someone else's desk.
The one thing I realized that is completely messed up about their complaint system is that it is all internal, meaning the complaint office has no interest in resolving any complaint, they just want them to go away.
A few years ago, a small group of my firearm friends and I met downtown Indianapolis at the City Market Building, which is directly across the street from the City County Building. We were all open carrying and assembled outside of the building while waiting for a few more to arrive. One of my buddies was carrying an MP5 strapped across his chest. We were handing out literature about the 2nd Amendment and Indiana Handgun Laws. There was maybe 8 of us that were all sort of grouped together just inside of the sidewalk path, so we could hand pamphlets to those passing by. All of a sudden, a swarm of uniformed officers close in on us from all directions. They surround us and started asking a series of questions, all starting off with asking for our identification and carry licenses.
As they called in all of our info and found there were no outstanding warrants for any of us, they were trying to determine what to do with us...they were trying to get us for something. A couple of officers started walking around us to see what we were all carrying and how we were carrying. Then, the officers started asking/telling each of us to decock and unload our our handguns. Each person did as instructed, but when they got to me, I respectfully declined, indicating that I was within my legal right to remain armed and would not disarm, as I had done nothing wrong. The officer got a perturbed look on his face as he reached to his duty belt and grabbed his handcuffs. I said, "you've got to be kidding me" as he told me to put my hands behind my back. At this point, I complied so I wouldn't get slapped with the bogus charge of resisting arrest for no crime being committed.
After being cuffed, he reached for my handgun, to which I quickly asked him to lock it prior to removing it from the holster. He did manage to lock it, then removed it from the holster and proceeded to unload every round out of the magazine and also un-chambered the live round. I had a book bag I was carrying with all of the pamphlets in it, it was sitting in front of me at my feet. He placed the mag and the unloaded rounds on the bag, while sticking my handgun in his back pocket. I asked if I was being arrested and he said no, just detained until they sort everything out. I remained cuffed for over 30 minutes while they were deciding what to do with us. During this whole event, I still had my 2nd carry handgun that was in my back pocket, easily accessible with my hands behind my back. On top of that, I also had my carry knife in my front pocket as well. The officer was simply an idiot and didn't follow proper procedure to insure I was disarmed. He just assumed that once he took my open carry handgun that I was disarmed.
I filed a complaint with the police department about my rights being violated, but after a few months of calling to find out the status, I gave up, as they were determined to sweep it under the rug. They always gave me some excuse, saying it was being reviewed or just got passed to someone else's desk.
The one thing I realized that is completely messed up about their complaint system is that it is all internal, meaning the complaint office has no interest in resolving any complaint, they just want them to go away.
