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Sharky said:
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Scary stuff. Does anybody have a link to that pen mic again? I'm starting to get paranoid here. I don't know if I can afford the camera setup, but maybe a little pen device might not be too much money...
I'm going to Radio Shack tomorrow for a voice recorder. They have one by Olympus with 27 hours of record time for $80.
I purchased a recorder a few weeks back from WalMart. It was like 40 bucks and has software and a USB cable to download to a computer. Works great and sound quality is very good.
What's the size of it? Could it be easily noticed?
 

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Its small and thin! I would say a little larger than a zippo! I have one of those pouches that slide onto the sun visor in my truck. It has a few external pockets that I slipped the recorder into. The mic side of the unit is the only exposed portion of the unit. From the outside it is hidden.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... id=6340144

Sombody wrote a review, but I believe it was a defective unit. Mine hasn't had any issues for months! Oh yeah and I am rough on electronics!
 

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Seems Chief Uhrig has his own "problems"...

http://www.kmov.com/news/asseenonnews4/ ... bbad0.html

St. George's Chief Uhrig under investigation for 2000 incident

06:16 AM CDT on Thursday, September 13, 2007

St. George Chief of Police Scott Uhrig

(KMOV) - An investigation is underway for St. George police Chief Scott Uhrig after news broke about an incident of possible sexual harassment in the chief’s past.

In 2000, Uhrig was accused of sexually harassing a 17 year-old woman during a traffic stop while employed as an officer with the Arnold Police Department.

In 2002, Uhrig was demoted to the position of probationary police officer as a result of the state's investigation.

St. George Mayor Harold Goodman told News 4 Investigates he did not know of the state sanction against the chief's license until it was discussed on KMOX-AM radio Wednesday morning.

Officer on unpaid leave after alleged threats against driver caught on tape
According to Goodman, Uhrig was hired by a previous administration.

Uhrig denies the 2000 incident took place, and says that he is innocent of a false accusation.

Uhrig does admit however that he was put on probation for a year with Arnold police, but went on to work four more years before taking the job at St. George.

St. George Police first went under scrutiny after an officer was caught on tape making verbal threats to a driver last week.
 

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Cops threaten to KILL man for videotaping police misconduct

Here's a good article with background and developments. It boggles the mind how stupid and completely out of control some "highly trained armed profesionals" can be.

On a tangent, how about the reporter calling this kid a vigilante in the headline? That's really rich. It conveys the impression that the kid has done something wrong by documenting his (mis)treatment at the hands of the St. George police.

That's right folks just bend over and take it all the way. They're from the gov't and they're always right and you're always wrong and not skilled, trained enough BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1967.asp

Missouri: Cop Website Contained Apparent Death Threat Against Video Vigilante

Unofficial website popular with Saint Louis, Missouri police contained a death threat against Brett Darrow three months before his recent encounter.

When stopped by an out-of-control St. George, Missouri police officer last Friday, motorist Brett Darrow feared for his life (view story and video). It turns out, he had legitimate reason for concern. Three months ago, participants in an online forum frequented by Saint Louis law enforcement personnel threatened to harass -- and even physically harm -- Darrow.

The messages appeared on St. Louis CopTalk, a site that describes itself as a site "for the use of law enforcement officers employed by the St. Louis Police Department and their supporters in the St. Louis Metropolitan area." While it has no official ties to the city, it does allow officers to log into official police email accounts from the front page. In June of this year, Darrow had sparked outrage among the forum's members after he videotaped a disputed traffic stop involving what Darrow argued was a perfectly legal turn and what a Saint Louis police officer said was not.

In the course of researching the incident, TheNewspaper learned from an inside source about a CopTalk posting dated June 29, 2007. A user calling himself "STL_FINEST" wrote the following item, presented unedited and in full:

in reply to "Who is this terd?"
I hope this little POS punk bastard tries his little video stunt with me when I pull him over alone- and I WILL pull him over - because I will see "his gun" and place a hunk of hot lead right where it belongs.

We verified the existence of the post which, until some time around July, was publicly available here. It has been deleted. Because the CopTalk forum allows anonymous posting, only the site's administrator has the ability to confirm the identity of a poster or his status as a law enforcement official. When contacted by TheNewspaper this week, the forum owner had no comment beyond, "Sorry, the posting log I have access to only contains the most recent 300 messages, and that particular message cycled off some time ago."

Still, participants did not disavow the posting. Instead, another added, "I'm going to his house to check for parking violations." We informed Darrow of the existence of the messages, but withheld publication not wishing to interfere with an expected investigation into officers' behavior at the well-publicized traffic stops. To our knowledge, no such investigation was ever made.

CopTalk now bans discussion of Darrow's videos. A message dated September 10 reads: "We are already very much aware of Mr. Darrow and his antics. There is no need to post any of his award-winning videography here." Still, discussions of last Friday's St. George traffic stop made their way onto the site for a few hours before being removed by the administrator. One poster expressed contempt for Darrow:

"Other than CYA and a heads up why do we give this [expletive] any thought? He lives for this type of [expletive]."

Another CopTalk user referred to a discussion on the online forum AR15.com by saying:

"I have a discussion going on another board where someone is basicly [sic] calling me a liar. The retards have even invited Brett to join to tell his side of what he does."

The firearms enthusiast forum began discussing Darrow's video on September 10. At least one other message from a self-identified Saint Louis area police officer appears to condone official harassment of the twenty-year-old motorist.

"Take the kid to jail... today... tommorrow... the next day... everytime you see him out and he commits a traffic violation... tow his car and take him to jail... period. No arguing, no yelling.....nothing but the sound of cash leaving his wallet from impound fees and fines." (view thread, view saved image of full post)

Unlike the CopTalk forum, however, neither this user nor any others in a sampling we made of the nearly 2000 messages posted on the AR15.com message thread supported the actions of St. George Police Sergeant James Kuehnlein. A number immediately condemned the self-identified officer's remarks.

The evidence shows that law enforcement problems extend far beyond the tiny geographic boundaries of 1300 resident city and that Darrow's video may have wide-reaching effects. The young driver's encounters with Saint Louis area police began in March 2005 when an intoxicated, off-duty police officer threatened to kill him. Darrow escaped only to find himself arrested hours later. The city agreed to drop all charges against him on the condition that he waive his right to sue over the incident. The following year, a Saint Louis officer at a DUI roadblock said he would, "find a reason to lock you up tonight" (view video and story). This is in addition to Sergeant Kuehnlein's videotaped threat that, "we will ruin your career and life and everything else you have coming before you."

The videotape from Kuehnlein's police cruiser is currently missing and the sergeant is currently on unpaid leave. St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig is also being investigated by city officials who say he may have failed to inform them that the State of Missouri Administrative Hearing Commission concluded that, "Uhrig's unwelcome sexual advances to a teenager, while on duty and under the guise of enforcing the laws, indicate an especially egregious mental state, show that he cannot enforce the law, and are cause for discipline."
 

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in reply to "Who is this terd?"
I hope this little POS punk bastard tries his little video stunt with me when I pull him over alone- and I WILL pull him over - because I will see "his gun" and place a hunk of hot lead right where it belongs.
 

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Another CopTalk user referred to a discussion on the online forum AR15.com by saying:

"I have a discussion going on another board where someone is basicly [sic] calling me a liar. The retards have even invited Brett to join to tell his side of what he does."

The firearms enthusiast forum began discussing Darrow's video on September 10. At least one other message from a self-identified Saint Louis area police officer appears to condone official harassment of the twenty-year-old motorist.

"Take the kid to jail... today... tommorrow... the next day... everytime you see him out and he commits a traffic violation... tow his car and take him to jail... period. No arguing, no yelling.....nothing but the sound of cash leaving his wallet from impound fees and fines." (view thread, view saved image of full post)
 

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The young driver's encounters with Saint Louis area police began in March 2005 when an intoxicated, off-duty police officer threatened to kill him. Darrow escaped only to find himself arrested hours later. The city agreed to drop all charges against him on the condition that he waive his right to sue over the incident.
 

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The videotape from Kuehnlein's police cruiser is currently missing and the sergeant is currently on unpaid leave.
 

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Of course not - any civilian that not only knows their rights but stands up for them is public enemy #1.

Haven't you learned anything from Hillary?
 

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It just gives you a warm safe feeling inside knowing that folks like this are running around armed and empowered don't it.
 

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I did wonder why he had a video running in his vehicle, but this article explains that he had ample reasons for doing so. It looks like he has a history of coming up against bad guys who happen to wear badges. Oh, and the missing video from the officer's cruiser is a huge red flag. Those things don't just walk off by themselves. This is blatant police cover up and collusion.
 

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This kid's video doesn't lie. Regardless of what the LEO's video showed, I don't think the agency has questioned the legitimacy of this tape.
 

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Guys, we posted his video from the roadblock here a long time ago in another thread.

So, what does everybody think about the fact that the police officer's videotape is "missing?" That strikes me as potentially criminal.
 

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I did wonder why he had a video running in his vehicle, but this article explains that he had ample reasons for doing so. It looks like he has a history of coming up against bad guys who happen to wear badges. Oh, and the missing video from the officer's cruiser is a huge red flag. Those things don't just walk off by themselves. This is blatant police cover up and collusion.
Actually, in this day of digital media, I see such things becoming more common.

People record the things they do for lots of reasons. I know in particular, individuals like to record their road trips, particularly if they have a sports car and the want to share their experience with others. I have a colleague that made it a point to record his experience when he drove his Lotus on the Dragon.

I routinely carried a camera with me on business trips. On commercial flights, I deliberately chose windows seats that would give me the best position to photograph the ground below. On road trips, I would take snap shots approximately a minute apart to capture my journey. I've toyed idea for mounting small cameras around my vehicle to capture video... primarily as evidence in case of a crash... but also for what this gentlemen is doing as well... and of course because I'm a nerd and this would be cool to do in and of it own self.

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Guys, we posted his video from the roadblock here a long time ago in another thread.

So, what does everybody think about the fact that the police officer's videotape is "missing?" That strikes me as potentially criminal.
The stench of corruption is overpowering... all involved should be excised from the service like a cancer... this was not a lapse of judgment or similar mistake... this was a criminal act.
 

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I woudn't be suprised if his 'chief' lost it for him.
"That's the million-dollar question," Uhrig said. "Our policy says any contact the officer has with the public has to be on tape."
 
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