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Chief is doing the right thing.

Officer in trouble over motorist's video in South County

By Patrick M. O'Connell and Georgina Gustin
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
09/11/2007

ST. GEORGE â€" A car-mounted video camera â€" more commonly used by police than against them â€" captured a loud and threatening confrontation in this tiny St. Louis County community that left an officer on suspension and the whole world able to listen in.

The picture doesn't show much, but the audio part of the recording, posted on Google Video and YouTube on the Internet, brought more than 300 protest calls to St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig.

"I was very displeased when I saw the actions on the video," Uhrig said. "My officers are not trained and taught to act like that."
 

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I saw that video earlier this week. Obviously this police officer needs some remedial training if not an out and out pink slip.

I thought the kid stood up for himself fairly well considering he was only 18 years old and was facing an angry police officer taunting him with jail time and confiscation of his car while calling him "young boy" over and over again.
 

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Making up a charge... isn't that what "disorderly conduct" is for?
 

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Ah AM da law!!!

At least, that's what we heard at da guns show......

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In the State of Missouri, we have the right to stop anybody walking for a pat check, or stop a suspicious vehicle anytime. Okay? That was my probable cause. And this parking lot, as a matter of fact, what's this parking lot called? Officer #1: What did you just call it?
Brett: It's a parking lot.
Officer #1: What kind?
Brett: A commuter parking lot
Officer #1: Are you commuting somewhere? Are you commuting somewhere?
Brett: How would you know that?
Officer #1: Are you commuting somewhere?
Brett: How would you know that?
Officer #1: That's why I was coming to inquire about that, but you just told me you were going to sit here.
Brett: You don't know if I was going to wait here for somebody to come pick me up.
Officer #1: I asked you that, did I not.
Brett: I don't have to say anything. I have the 5th Amendment right.
Officer #1: Do you really?
 

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Officer #1: If you fail to comply with my orders, my lawful orders, you have the right to go to jail. Failure to comply with a police officer.
Brett: Your lawful orders to answer your questions...
Officer #1: Yes, my field.
Brett: Personal questions?
Officer #1: What's personal questions? You're sitting here in a commuter parking lot at 2 o'clock in the morning, you understand.
Brett: Okay, that's fine.
Officer #1: You know what, I think I'm gonna bring you with me. Come on.
Brett: Officer please.
Officer #1: I think you're gonna come with me. Then you can try and sue me in grand jury and I bet you I win. Then I'll sue you.
 

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Brett: Did I commit a moving violation?
Officer #1: Yeah you did, when you were coming in here.
Brett: Really? What was that?
Officer #1: Yeah, you wanna try me? You wanna try me tonight? You think you've had a bad night? I will ruin your f***ing night.
[Officer starts to get close up to my face]
Officer #1 You want to try me?
[Officer is inches away from my face, screaming as I'm pinned between him and my vehicle]
Officer #1 Do you wanna try me young boy? Do you want to try me tonight young boy?
Brett: No I don't.
Officer #1: Do you want to go to jail for some ****ing reason I come up with?
Brett: No I don't.
Officer #1: Do you wanna see who knows the law better, me or you. My experience compared to your young ass. Huh? Don't ever get smart mouthed with a cop again. I show you what a cop does. Do you understand me?
Brett: Yes sir.
Officer #1: Try and talk back -- Talk back to me again. I bet I could say you resisted arrest or something. You want to come up with something? I come up with nine things. Do you wanna try something?
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
Officer #1: Yeah, you wanna try me? You wanna try me tonight? You think you've had a bad night? I will ruin your f***ing night.
[Officer starts to get close up to my face]
Officer #1 You want to try me?
[Officer is inches away from my face, screaming as I'm pinned between him and my vehicle]
Officer #1 Do you wanna try me young boy? Do you want to try me tonight young boy?
Brett: No I don't.
Officer #1: Do you want to go to jail for some ****ing reason I come up with?
This is all frantic screaming from the police officer. I am worried about anybody with such little self control in such an office.
 

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Wow... just wow...

The only thing missing was Rod Sterling giving a monologue.

Forget rehabing this... just push him out the door for the good of the force.

That would make a good training video on how *not* to act.
 

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I saw that video earlier this week. Obviously this police officer needs some remedial training if not an out and out pink slip.

I thought the kid stood up for himself fairly well considering he was only 18 years old and was facing an angry police officer taunting him with jail time and confiscation of his car while calling him "young boy" over and over again.
++, though I'm not sure that any amount of remedial training would be sufficient to let this officer back on the streets. As an officer, we have given him the power of arrest, which he clearly does not respect.
 

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I commend this kid for having a camera. I have often wanted to do the same.

This is the US of A. Not Russia.

That cop obviously doesn't understand that. He does not deserve a badge.

Thank God for the good cops that pulled me over when i was young. (Cobb County none the less)
 

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Know your rights, exercise them whenever possible, but most importantly get evidence to corroborate your story (especially when dealing with "the law").
 
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