I'll be glad when it isn't just medical
Only this last October Eric Holder stated that the federal government denounced Kalifornia's Prop 19 and would continue to be "firmly committed to enforcing the federal Controlled Substances Act in all states". Also, under Obama spending on the War on Drugs has increased each year, with his proposed 2011 budget calling for an increase of 3.5% over current spending.mb90535im said:Looking ahead to 2012, assuming a more conservative Executive Branch is calling the shots at the Justice Dept., do you believe it will be "war declared" again on the medical marijuana industry in states that have legalized it or do you think there will be an Executive Branch concession to state's rights on the matter?
True, but am I not correct that regarding medical marijuana specifically, the Obama Administration has called off the Justice Dept. from enforcing federal marijuana prohibition laws against specifically medical growers, distribution channels, and users in states that have legalized marijuana for medical purposes?Thorsen said:Only this last October Eric Holder stated that the federal government denounced Kalifornia's Prop 19 and would continue to be "firmly committed to enforcing the federal Controlled Substances Act in all states". Also, under Obama spending on the War on Drugs has increased each year, with his proposed 2011 budget calling for an increase of 3.5% over current spending.
Contrary to what many think, the War on Drugs has not diminished one bit and is actually still expanding under the Obama administration.
I think you are incorrect. Just recently the DEA did another round of raids of medical marijuana grows and dispensaries across the US. Again, this subject appears to be one wherein the POTUS is saying one thing while his administration continues with business as usual. The only reason I can see for small scale growers not being raided is that even with the expansion of funds for the WoD there are still not enough resources to combat it. After all, an estimated 50+% of all marijuana consumed in the US is now grown here at home.mb90535im said:True, but am I not correct that regarding medical marijuana specifically, the Obama Administration has called off the Justice Dept. from enforcing federal marijuana prohibition laws against specifically medical growers, distribution channels, and users in states that have legalized marijuana for medical purposes?Thorsen said:Only this last October Eric Holder stated that the federal government denounced Kalifornia's Prop 19 and would continue to be "firmly committed to enforcing the federal Controlled Substances Act in all states". Also, under Obama spending on the War on Drugs has increased each year, with his proposed 2011 budget calling for an increase of 3.5% over current spending.
Contrary to what many think, the War on Drugs has not diminished one bit and is actually still expanding under the Obama administration.
I am pretty sure that if President Obama truly wanted to end the war on drugs, specifically the targeting of medical marijuana grows and dispensaries, he could do so. All it would take is for him to threaten to fire a boss or two in the DEA and the process would end that day.mb90535im said:You're correct.
Looks like the DEA has a bunch of "Sheriff Joe" cowboys on their hands that don't give a damn what the boss says.
Too bad.
Truth.Thorsen said:I agree with ending the costly and futile WoD TippinTaco. But to the "drugs are bad" speeches, the reason people did not listen to them is they found out they had been lied to. The "this is your brain on drugs" and similar campaigns were the modern equivalent of the 1930s era "Reefer Madness". Once people realized that they were being lied to in regards to one drug (pot) why wouldn't they come to the conclusion that everything else the gub'mint was telling them in regards to drugs was also either incorrect or an outright lie as well.
Yes, some CAN be stronger. But it costs more. People don't smoke joints or blunts of the "good" stuff. They smoke tiny amounts out of pipes. Joints and blunts are filled with the same average-quality pot ("regs" or "mids") from back in the day, as I understand it.Thorsen said:I wouldn't be surprised to find out that reefer today was stronger than that of a decade or two ago. But to date I know of no overdose due to marijuana. And regardless of the strength, the same thing holds true today as it did twenty years ago .... smoke too much cannabinoids and you go to sleep.
Or vote for Gary Johnson in 2012: http://ouramericainitiative.com/bdee said:If we could get the gun owners and potheads to all join the Libertarian party, we'd have a viable third party.
Says you! :shattered: :lol:spector said:People don't smoke joints or blunts of the "good" stuff.
i'd think sobdee said:If we could get the gun owners and potheads to all join the Libertarian party, we'd have a viable third party.