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Be interesting to know if gun was in vehicle or on student(and his age and if licensed).
 

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Hey everyone. I am the student in question and I made this reply elsewhere on the internet. Under current laws, as you all know, it is illegal to have your weapon in student housing. As such, my weapon was not on my person but instead in my vehicle. As for situational awareness fail? Maybe. However, I think we can all agree that pulling your weapon when you have two guns pointed at you may not be the best idea. Maybe I'm an idiot. Maybe not. I'm too tired to type another huge explanation so instead I copied and pasted the below from elsewhere. As such, some may not apply to you all as it was directed at people who are anti-campus carry. Have a good day, everyone.

Edit: and yes, mountainpass--you are correct. They did know I had my GCWL. I'm a 22 year old male.


"I'd like to set the record straight. I'm a Georgia weapons carry license holder. Under the current campus carry laws, students are not allowed to carry weapons in student housing. Therefore, I did not have my gun on my person, but in my car.

I walked out of my girlfriend's apartment and was immediately ambushed by two black males (KSU and Cobb county police both decided to withhold this information when releasing their descriptions of the subjects). One of them had a laser sight mounted on his pistol and as soon as I walked out the door, the laser was on my chest. Both had guns. Even had I had my weapon on my person, it would have been an extremely poor decision to draw it.

They told me to comply and they would let me go safely.

They asked for my wallet, which contained my GWCL, and then asked if I had any cash. Before I had a chance to answer, the other black male asked where my gun was. I told him I didn't have one. He reiterated "I know you got one" (in hindsight I think he was bluffing--as a rule, I do not flaunt the fact that I'm a gun owner. There are no stickers on my car that are gun related and I have made no posts on social media about my weapon.)


In the interest of not dying, I told him my weapon was in my car. He then opened my door and removed it from my car. They then told me to lay on the ground and cross my legs. As soon as I was on the ground, I heard their feet slamming the pavement as they ran away. I turned my head and decided they were no longer close enough to be an immediate threat, so I jumped in my car (which they had no interest in stealing--I tried to give them my keys, possibly because it's a 6 speed) and started to drive in the direction they ran off. I lost sight of them and then proceeded to the KSU police department to be met with locked doors and no answer after I banged on both front and back doors of PD as well as blaring my horn. I had to call 911, where I said "I'm at the KSU police department. I need an officer NOW, I was just robbed at gunpoint"

All the dispatcher had to say was "what's the cross street?"

I should also note that the school places emergency call boxes around campus. There is one right next to my girlfriend's apartment but it is out of order.

There are also no cameras in the area, a fact I discovered earlier this year when my motorcycle was vandalized.

I have seen several people question whether or not drugs were involved. I'm a guy who has never so much as had a sip of alcohol in my entire life. I will gladly submit to a drug test and a full K9 search of my car--officers would find not so much as a trace of any drugs or paraphernalia.

Any of you making this into a gun debate--**** you. These were two criminals, who clearly would have done this regardless of whether or not campus carry had been passed.

Police also told me there was another robbery that matched the description I gave, 15 minutes prior about 5 minutes down the road at another student apartment complex.

Have a good day everyone. Ultimately none of you will have to deal with the realities of having two guns pointed in your face and being told the only thing that lies between you and death is your cooperation, but I'd love if people wouldn't try to politicize this.

Thanks."
 

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KSUStudent,

Thanks for posting here. I am glad you are physically unharmed. Please stick around and contribute to our community.

Malum Prohibitum
 

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They asked for my wallet, which contained my GWCL, and then asked if I had any cash. Before I had a chance to answer, the other black male asked where my gun was.
That is an extremely odd question.

I would be racking my brain to try and figure out why he asked that question. They know you, or they know somebody who knows you.
 

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That is an extremely odd question.

I would be racking my brain to try and figure out why he asked that question. They know you, or they know somebody who knows you.
I honestly doubt that this is the case. I am not friends with people like that and the only friends I have who know I carry (or even own a gun) are very respectable and own guns themselves.

If somebody knew I had a gun and wanted to steal it why would they not have just broken into my car at any time in the past? Why approach me directly and leave a witness? Trust me, I have been thinking of all the variables and there's no connection that I can come up with whatsoever.

This also happened at my girlfriend's apartment complex, where I do not live. The chances of me being there at that time are next to zero. I'm nearing 100% confident this was a random act.

I am also very confident I was not followed. I am very watchful of stuff like that and didn't see another car at any point.

I can't help but wonder if they saw my GWCL in my wallet.
 

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I can't help but wonder if they saw my GWCL in my wallet.
That's what I was thinking. I keep mine hidden behind my DL.

I'm glad you're okay, and sorry you lost your weapon. That is
one of my biggest fears, I would hate to think some scumbag
was out doing crimes with one of my guns.
Welcome to the forum - please stick around!
 

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Would you be willing to be interviewed if it were anonymously?

Edit: It's ok if not. Plus you can PM me if you want.
 

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Sorry to hear about this, and like comments above, I'm very happy to hear you are okay!

I hope you can stick around as Malum asked. Your perspectives would be welcome on this forum.
 

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Sorry this happened to you, but glad you're ok. I hate hearing your story. My three kids will all be at KSU in a couple weeks. None old enough to carry, though my daughter has pepper spray.
 

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Sorry to hear of this unfortunate incident occurring to you. Hopefully these "upstanding citizens" are caught soon, or pick the wrong target and have their antics ended permanently.

This is a pristine example of needing the current campus carry restrictions removed. Would having your gun on you have altered the outcome given the circumstances? Who's to say.

I might recommend seeking some quality training to help in case you are ever targeted again. Drawing on a drawn gun(s) isn't ideal of course, but a quality instructor could help you understand how to get inside the aggressor's OODA loop and regain the advantage.

I sincerely hope you will continue to participate on this forum.
 

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Sorry this happened to you.

Don't be so eager to submit to a cue dog search. The dog WILL "hit" to please its handler. The police will then vacuum the floorboards and call the grass clippings that wiped off the bottom of your shoe "shake" and claim it is too little to test, but that in their "expert" opinion, it is drugs.
 

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CAP Action Guns‏ @CAPActionGuns 28s28 seconds ago
Campus carry on Georgia fails to deter crime, instead puts another illegal gun on the street http://www.ajc.com/news/local/cops-ksu-student-gun-wallet-stolen-armed-robbery-campus-dorm/1IyM6cDukikBYhExsf2qFJ/?ecmp=socialflow_ajc … #gunsense


Jeremy Kariuki‏ @simba_kariuki 3h3 hours ago
Sooo they passed campus open carry and we already have an armed robbery at KSU #smh


Janel Green‏ @sandersmomma1 3h3 hours ago
@antonia_okafor Campus carry day 25 in GA and they're already being stolen. So much for that good guy w/a gun bs http://www.ajc.com/news/local/cops-ksu-student-gun-wallet-stolen-armed-robbery-campus-dorm/1IyM6cDukikBYhExsf2qFJ/?ecmp=socialflow_ajc …


Cocks Not Glocks‏ @CocksNotGlocks http://www.ajc.com/news/local/cops-ksu-student-gun-wallet-stolen-armed-robbery-campus-dorm/1IyM6cDukikBYhExsf2qFJ/ …
 

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I'm so sorry that this is being used to paint campus carry in a negative light. I didn't mean for any of this to happen and I feel like I've failed at representing the GWCL community well.
 

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Are our Georgia General Assembly members listening? HB 280 did not go far enough to restore liberty, and here you see what happens. The young man was forced to leave his gun in his car instead of wearing it where it belongs. He may not have chosen to draw, but he should have had that option.
 

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I'm so sorry that this is being used to paint campus carry in a negative light. I didn't mean for any of this to happen and I feel like I've failed at representing the GWCL community well.
Didn't you say this was student housing, and so you could not carry?

You can't help that the enemies of liberty are misrepresenting what happened too further their agenda of restricting civil rights.
 
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