[Dan H]

I created a post prior about the KT PF-9 and know that most like this gun, however I am trying to decide between these two now for a deep CC gun.

They are very similar guns in nature. Both are lite with a plastic frame. They are roughly the same size (KT is slightly smaller), carry roughly the same amount of rounds (may be different by 1 round). To me, they are very similar when compared side by side.

I guess my main concern is build quality, reliability and cost. First, the Kahr in my mind is more of a quality firearm and the $100 price difference reflects this. However, if I was convinced that the PF-9 was perfectly capable as well, then I would be all over it for the price alone.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Also, I just purchased another handgun that I plan to trick out a little. More details and photos to come....

 

[GunNut]

Have you looked at the PM9? I have one of these and like it. I believe it is slightly smaller than the CW9. I did have a few FTF's when it was new, but once I ran a couple hundred rounds thru it, it has functioned flawlessly. (This was recommended in the manual)

For a super small gun, I like it.

 

[Dan H]

Have you looked at the PM9? I have one of these and like it. I believe it is slightly smaller than the CW9. I did have a few FTF's when it was new, but once I ran a couple hundred rounds thru it, it has functioned flawlessly. (This was recommended in the manual)

For a super small gun, I like it.

Yes, I have looked at it, but was wanting to keep the price under $400.00 for this type of gun. The PM9 is a nice pistol indeed.

 

[ptsmith24]

Have you looked at the PM9? I have one of these and like it. I believe it is slightly smaller than the CW9. I did have a few FTF's when it was new, but once I ran a couple hundred rounds thru it, it has functioned flawlessly. (This was recommended in the manual)

For a super small gun, I like it.

Nothing personal, but I don't know about trusting your life with a weapon that requires a break-in period. I don't know much about these weapons, so forgive me if I'm mistaken.

 

[Dan H]

Have you looked at the PM9? I have one of these and like it. I believe it is slightly smaller than the CW9. I did have a few FTF's when it was new, but once I ran a couple hundred rounds thru it, it has functioned flawlessly. (This was recommended in the manual)

For a super small gun, I like it.

Nothing personal, but I don't know about trusting your life with a weapon that requires a break-in period. I don't know much about these weapons, so forgive me if I'm mistaken.

Yeah, thats partly where Im coming from as I think both of these manufacturers have a break-in period.

 

[GunNut]

I too had thoughts about its reliability and still don't trust it like my Glocks, Sigs, and HK's. My preferred carry is my Glock 33, but sometimes it is nice to have something that hides a little easier.

I didn't carry it until I had shot about 150 rds thru it without a single issue. I'd say it was really the first 50 that had the most problems.

Mine is 3-4 years old, TonyG recently purchased one as well and I'm pretty sure it hasn't had any of the break-in issues at all.

 

[shamalama]

The early Kel-Tecs has some issues, but anything manufactured in the last few months, with a serial number higher than R1xxx, should be fine. Mine has around 400 rounds through it without any problems other than not liking factory range reloads.

The Kahr CW series are supposed to be great guns, and I doubt you would be disappointed.

I simply didn't have $500 to spend at the time for a Kahr, but now, after the fact, I have been nothing but pleased with my PF-9. I have absolute confidence that if I pull the trigger the gun will go bang.

 

[blind_shake]

I also would like to add that Kel Tec has top notch customer service. Not sure about Kahr. KelTec will practically bend over backwards to help you.

 

[ThetaReactor]

I've had no problems with my PF-9, nor my SU-16. The PF-9 did have a FTF on the very first magazine, but every gun improves with a bit of break-in.

 

[blind_shake]

I've had no problems with my PF-9, nor my SU-16. The PF-9 did have a FTF on the very first magazine, but every gun improves with a bit of break-in.

I own a SU16 Alpha and I have had them send me free extractors no shipping cost.

 

[GrimJack]

Mine is 3-4 years old, TonyG recently purchased one as well and I'm pretty sure it hasn't had any of the break-in issues at all.

I purchased mine on Tom's recommendation. The fit seems a little tight out of the box. When it was new I brought it home and gave it a good cleaning and inspection. Took it to the range with 200 rounds and shot the crap out of it. I think I had one FTF but that was probably my fault. I have since shot another 200-300 rounds through it (FMJ, Hornady TAP, CorBon JHP) with not a single issue. It is an excellent small weapon. Now I didn't use it in the Firearmz class a few weeks ago (somebody was using theirs part time) I don't hesitate to stick it in my pocket when I need a very small weapon. I am probaby also going to get an ankle rig for cooler weather BUG use. I don't think it is worth saving a few bucks when it comes to a weapon you are going to use to protect yourself. I can see taking the cheap road on a range toy, but not a CCW.