Justice in the USA, always punishes property crime more than violent crime

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by NTA, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. NTA

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  2. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    you know what I learned from watching the movie unforgiven with Clint Eastwood? If a violent criminal does not get an adequate punishment from the legal system he's liable to get too much punishment outside of the legal system.

    In that movie somebody who committed an aggravated assault by slashing a woman's face was given a small fine as penalty.

    That slap on the wrist was so outrageous that the victim and her friends paid hitmen to kill him. That was more than he deserved, but...

    When the justice system in that town utterly failed, all bets were off. If the safest and easiest way to dispense justice is to have somebody kill him (and his best friend, and leave no witnesses) then that's what they'll do. And "deserve" has got nothing to do with it.
     

  3. NTA

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    “It seems like a public-shaming exercise, which is not the role of the police department … They are making it really accessible for folks who might wish these people harm to locate them.”

    In the latest skirmish, here's some mug shots of those arrested:

    https://lidblog.com/mugshots-antifa/
     
  4. OWM

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    When the institutions that we the people have set up to dispense justice in our name fail to do so ,do we not have a moral obligation to dispense justice?
     
  5. moe mensale

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    I wonder if all those local idiots whose mugshots make it into the local papers consider it to be a shaming exercise? It probably is anyway. "Hey, little Johnny, don't grow up to be like this loser!"

    Besides, don't you really want to know who and where that POS who clocked you with a bike lock and got away with it, lives? :mrgreen:
     
  6. moe mensale

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    Trial took place in Oakland, CA. He didn't actually kill anyone. You expected different?
     
  7. Bkite

    Bkite PawPaw x 3

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    By whose standard?
     
  8. Bkite

    Bkite PawPaw x 3

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    Today, it is "in your face" disrespect for the rule of law. Bleach bit...hammer broken cell phones...Hillary Clinton.
     
  9. moe mensale

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    Does that moral obligation not then become vigilantism? Do we then lose the moral high ground? Not that I don't agree with you.
     
  10. OWM

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    Big difference between justice and vigilantism. Justice can be applied just as fairly by we the people as the ones we have appointed to do that.
     
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  11. Bkite

    Bkite PawPaw x 3

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    I believe we lose the moral high ground when we continually depend on a system of justice and rule of law that serves the elite and those who make a living manipulating the law
     
  12. OWM

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    You Nailed It