Just applied in Chatham County

Discussion in 'Ga. County Licensing Information' started by WiLMan, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. WiLMan

    WiLMan New Member

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    Just applied for my GWCL in Chatham County. It was a pretty quick process. Within 20 minutes I was in and out of the probate court and on my way to the UPS store for finger prints on Berwick. Will update in 6 weeks time when I get my permit.
     
  2. Feral

    Feral Active Member

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    Welcome to GPDO.

    6 weeks is a long time! Wow.
     

  3. WiLMan

    WiLMan New Member

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    Tell me about it! Thank god for Georgia and permitless carry for service members!
     
  4. dcannon1

    dcannon1 New Member

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    When I did my renewal here I got mine in about 10 total days, and that was switching from the old style to new style license. Did they tell you six weeks?
     
  5. WiLMan

    WiLMan New Member

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    Yeah, the lady at the court house said I should expect it within 6-8 weeks. If I don't get anything by week 6 to give them a call. One of my soldier just applied a few months back and he said it took him 5 weeks to receive his. But he did his in Liberty County.
     
  6. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Last time in Chatham for me was Nov. 2012, it was a renewal from a old GFL to the newer style GWCL. Took 20 minutes at probate and 5 minutes at fingerprinting UPS Store out on HWY 17 in Berwick Shopping Center.

    Got it back in 15 days.
     
  7. WiLMan

    WiLMan New Member

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    Just got back to Georgia and my GWCL was sitting in the mail. Applied on the 19th of June and my wife said it came in earlier this week. So all in all it took about 5 weeks.

    EDIT: Had the date of when I submitted my application wrong.
    Looked at the GWCL and it was issued the 13th of July. So about 2 1/2 weeks for them to issue it, another 3 for them to actually mail it out.
     
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  8. gtg947h

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    Another data point

    Wife just applied for a new issue. She was quoted 10 weeks :shock:

    I will update when it comes in. I'm eligible for renewal starting in June...
     
  9. DonT

    DonT Deplorable bitter clinger.

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  10. gtg947h

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    Wife finally received it, after leaving four messages for the person who does the licensing and then a fifth phone call to the general probate court and asking for that person, who supposedly had "laryngitis" :^o

    Anyway, applied Feb 17th, received May 26. 14 weeks :mad:
     
  11. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    10 days is all the Probate Judge has to issue the GWCL under normal circumstances. The NICS check comes back immediately from FBI and is timestamped. From that timestamp, the Probate Judge has 10 days.

     
  12. gtg947h

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    Is that calendar days or business days?

    And I don't think the probate court gives a crap. I get the impression they (clerks, judge, whoever) don't like issuing them and are against the whole thing, so they'll delay as long as they can get away with. They know the average Joe has neither the time nor the money to do anything about it.

    Going in for my renewal on Monday. We'll see how that goes. Not holding my breath...
     
  13. mark5019

    mark5019 what me worry?

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    to my knowledge its 10 days period.
     
  14. phantoms

    phantoms Senior Mumbler

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    Going by their website (https://courts.chathamcounty.org/Probate-Court/Concealed-Weapon-Permits), they may be overcharging too.

    $37.00 for a license and $48.25 for the fingerprint/background check.

    I only see where the law allows $30 16.11.129(a) for the license and $3.oo for the optional mental health check 16-11-129(b)(J). Where does the extra $4 come from?
     
  15. MadDawgJ

    MadDawgJ BAMF

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    The mental health check is only required if you have been treated and there for they need to contact the doctor and get their statement.

    I checked this thread the other day and your post got my attention since I needed to renew mine. I applied today and was told to expect 2 months. That is very surprising since it was mailed out two days latter last time but we will see what happens. They where also quoting 90 days for new permits. I'm hoping they are way over quoting so you don't call next week when it's not there.

    While there I asked very politely about the $37 charge versus the $30 in statute and none of the clerks had a clue what I was talking about. Not feeling like I would get any other answers and not wanting to cause "trouble" with the people who decide on my permit I didn't ask anymore questions. Besides the non answer not being acceptable to me I also had a very big issue with two other things they post on the website:

    "Applications made by a license holder whose current or previous license was issued by another county will NOT be considered a renewal application, but will be a new application. The applicant MUST undergo a fingerprint based check in the new county.

    If you are applying for a renewal the following documents are required for application: Driver's license or state ID card issued by Chatham County, and your old permit."

    First no matter the county issued the law clearly states that it is a renewal and must be treated as such and there is no ambiguity in its phrasing. Fortunately that didn't apply to me so I didn't bring that up while there. Second the permit is a state ID card so why do we have to show two state IDs when only one is required for a new permit?

    After I paid my $38.50, since they charge $1.50 convince fee for credit or debit, I went and stopped by a friend with a law degree (no longer practices) and lots of guns to ask him about all this. We verified current statutes and made some calls.

    He called the court clerks and got the same basic "I don't know" answer I had. He then called the head clerk directly and managed to get answers. The fee is $30 for the permit plus the $7 that the company that prints them charges to print and ship (Chatham is ship only you cannot pick it up) and statute allows them to pass that cost on (per the clerk, we did not ask for nor research for a relevant statute). He also stated that we where correct in the issue of out of county renewals and that they could easily access the existing prints irregardless of previous issuing county. There was not as clear of an answer, or as detailed of a conversation, on the ID issue as that is more of a pet pieve of mine than an issue that we felt could interfere with others properly getting their permit. He stated that this appears to be a training issue and he will address it with each clerk and thanked my friend for bringing it to his attention.

    All in all he was very pleasant about it all and did seem like he intends to fix the issue and we where content with the results. Hopefully no one gets charged the finger printing fee for renewals and hopefully they update the website and also add South Carolina to the listed states with reciprocity.

    For those that are not aware there is a new judge and new staff in the probate court. Anyways that is my super long first post. I think I included everything but if anyone has questions let me know. I'll post back when I get my renewal.
     
  16. phantoms

    phantoms Senior Mumbler

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    There is no such statue. In fact, they are bound by law in exactly what they may charge and no more.
     
  17. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

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    I messed up and let my license expire in March. I guess I will be having words with the folks in the probate office. :sad:
     
  18. UtiPossidetis

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    Outstanding first post, thanks. With a new judge and staff its an opportune time to get things corrected, its always easier to blame others and just fix it. As for the extra $7, nope. The statute is crystal clear. Welcome aboard.
     
  19. MadDawgJ

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    Thanks, I agree but over the phone wasn't the place to challenge him. Also there are associated fees that other counties pass on for renewals, like the background check and mailing the permit if you choose, so there may be justification for it and he may have just misspoke. It's really something that should be done in writing (proof of their claim) and preferably by a lawyer or a large group with some clout. I haven't had any time to do any more on this but I intend to if no one else takes up the cause in the meantime.

    Savannah Dan good luck, supposedly there are now 2 fingerprint locations so you don't have to go all the way to Berwick.
     
  20. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

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    I just checked and I paid $37 dollars back in 2012, but I got my license in the mail SEVEN days after I paid that $37.