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It's a charity event where jokes are the name of the day. You have to admit, that's pretty darn funny.
 

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What does this have to do with guns and the Second Amendment?
 

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What does this have to do with guns and the Second Amendment?
hiLIARy, bill and obummer are all strongly anti-gun and believe the 2A is outdated and dead.

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Obama's religion has nothing to do with his anti gun stance. I believe he was raised Muslim and has a soft spot for them in his heart. He may actually be one, but he's about what ever he is about as much as I believe Trump to be a Christian.

No fruits of the spirit that I can see
 

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Someone in the Trump camp claimed he only recently was lead to accept Christ as his Savior. Only God knows for sure whether he really did get saved or not.

Give it some time to see if he really bears fruit from it.

Obama's religion has nothing to do with his anti gun stance. I believe he was raised Muslim and has a soft spot for them in his heart. He may actually be one, but he's about what ever he is about as much as I believe Trump to be a Christian.

No fruits of the spirit that I can see
 

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Just like his recent wandering into the Republican party after being a life long New York liberal Democrat, just like his recent love for the 2A.

All for show to get certain people to vote for him.

Nobody has been elected so far without at least feigning they are a Christian.

Barack Obama says he's a christian too, you believe that?

None of them are, a Christian couldn't get up there and constantly lie like that, like lying was breathing.

His arrogance, pride, untruthfulness shown just in the past few days and weeks are enough for me.

Don't be fooled, don't allow the wool to be pulled over your eyes.

Do not allow yourself to be deceived.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=4J1RR7oz2Ug

http://nyti.ms/29srjRK
 

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What does this have to do with guns and the Second Amendment?
Maybe that's why it's in the "Off-topic" forum.........................
 

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That's between him and his God. Not you, not me, not the tooth fairy.
He still has time to turn his life around, he just hasn't done it yet.
 

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He still has time to turn his life around, he just hasn't done it yet.
When did you become the arbiter of what's in Trump's or any man's soul? Again, that's between him and his God. Not you, not me, not the tooth fairy.
 

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When did you become the arbiter of what's in Trump's or any man's soul? Again, that's between him and his God. Not you, not me, not the tooth fairy.
Nice strawman.

I'm a Christian, so it effects us all when terrible people get on a World Stage and say they are a Christian. Only gullible and fearful people are buying his crap. All his crap.

Not just this.

The Bible is very specific about how to tell if someone is really a Christian or not when he professes that they are one.
 

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Galatians 5:22-23 New International Version (NIV)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Matthew 7:15-20New King James Version (NKJV)

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Fruits of the Holy Spirit
 

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Nice strawman.

I'm a Christian, so it effects us all when terrible people get on a World Stage and say they are a Christian. Only gullible and fearful people are buying his crap. All his crap.

Not just this.

The Bible is very specific about how to tell if someone is really a Christian or not when he professes that they are one.
Stawman my ass. I'm not impressed with your Christian identity. Nor any one else's. I've been a Christian probably longer than you've been breathing. And I've seen more "Christians" turn on their fellow Christians than you'd care to know. Sunday warriors and hypocrites.

The fruits of the Holy Spirit are genuine. How they manifest themselves in individuals is between God and the individual. We are not, never have been and never will be the arbiters of those gifts. We are just redeemed sinners.

I don't pretend to know what's in any man's heart. I will not question Trump's faith. Neither will I question Clinton's or Johnson's faith. I will just watch their actions.
 

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Stawman my :censored :. I'm not impressed with your Christian identity. Nor any one else's. I've been a Christian probably longer than you've been breathing. And I've seen more "Christians" turn on their fellow Christians than you'd care to know. Sunday warriors and hypocrites.

The fruits of the Holy Spirit are genuine. How they manifest themselves in individuals is between God and the individual. We are not, never have been and never will be the arbiters of those gifts. We are just redeemed sinners.

I don't pretend to know what's in any man's heart. I will not question Trump's faith. Neither will I question Clinton's or Johnson's faith. I will just watch their actions.
Johnson was raised Christian, but I think now has been honest about being a universalist. So not really a Christian.

The only honest one out of the three.

Trump's 2A, Pro-life, and recent jail house conversion now that he wants to be president are all very suspicious to me. Nobody that lies constantly about everything could be a Christian. Trump obviously spends no time reading the Bible, he doesn't know it, he's bumble scriptures and names, rarely goes to church for corporate worship. I'm highly skeptical to say the least. Time would be able to tell though. I'm very skeptical also because of the timing.

Hilary is most likely not also a real Christian.

One person who might actually be a real christian to run for president last time is Mike Huckabee. I've seen some possible fruit of the spirit from him.

You guys can continue to defend the indefensible all over this website but it just looks silly.

I don't vote for presidents depending on their faith. I know some do. To each his own. I don't though.

I'm not alone in my skepticism.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/kirk-franklin-evangelical-friends-fruits-donald-trump-spirit-159291/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...-name-of-christianity/?utm_term=.6cd4cba3015f
 
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