Is Google a good search engine?

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by Malum Prohibitum, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    This is the first I have heard of this. Google is my preferred search engine because it gives me the returns I seek. I have tried others, and they do not work well. Sometimes other search engines are not even able to find web sites I visit all the time but do not have bookmarked.

    Yahoo is the worst. It was the default on the wife's iPad. Type in What is Trump's position on x, y, or Z, and you get 50 results on Trump Is The Devil and Why Hillary is Better than Trump (hyperbole, but not far off the mark).

    So, let's hear it.

    (A) Is Google bad?

    (B) Why is it bad?

    (C) What alternatives are better?

    (D) Why are they better?​
  2. jsaund22

    jsaund22 Ninjaneering Computers

    It depends. You say Google returns the results you are looking for better than any other search engine. In that regard, Google is the best. Google is bad for other reasons.

    Google is a left-wing company. They probably do attempt to slant what you are presented with if you're searching for things related to politics. They collect massive amounts of personal data about what you search for, what sites you frequent, what you purchase, what your entertainment preferences are (Youtube), etc. Google probably knows more about you than your significant other, if you spend a good deal of time online.

    Bing - it probably collects similar amounts of data about your search interests as Google, but it has always returned fairly accurate results for me.

    DuckDuckGo - supposedly good for privacy, but I don't tend to trust any company that touts privacy

    There are others, but the quality (IMO) falls off dramatically enough that they aren't worth mentioning.

    For me, no search engine is better than Google, simply because of the accuracy of results. When I'm searching for something political in nature I will sometimes open IE, which I never use, and do the search from that browser without logging into Google. You'd be surprised at how different the results can be.

  3. ForsythGlock

    ForsythGlock Member

    When you use IE, are the results different when using Google as the search engine in both?
  4. jsaund22

    jsaund22 Ninjaneering Computers

    Chrome is my standard browser. I am logged into my Google account when I am in Chrome, so my results are "catered" to my search, browsing, YouTubing, etc. history. Even if I log out, it's not a "clean" logout, so there is still some catering done just based on browser type. Right or wrong, in the computer world, people who use Internet Explorer are considered a little less intelligent than those who use alternate browsers. Even airlines modify their prices for the same flights based solely on the browser you use.

    Again - I don't search for much political stuff. I mostly search for stuff related to technology, CNC machining, poker, science, 3D printing, that kind of stuff. And since Google knows my history it is able to present me with results that are "more accurately" what I am looking for.

    [Edit] That was a long way to say that, yes, the results are different, even if I'm logged out of Chrome. If I'm logged in to Chrome, they can be dramatically different depending on the subject.
  5. jsaund22

    jsaund22 Ninjaneering Computers

    Just a note - all search engines these days are going to try to "learn" a little bit about you. They are going to collect aggregate and detailed data about what you search for and which results you click on. They will assume the clicked results more closely represent what you were searching for, and they will attempt to present you with more similar results at the top of your search in the future. The more they learn about you, the more different the results will be when compared against a "virgin" browser.
  6. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

    In simple terms...

  7. GM404

    GM404 Well-Known Member

    There are lots of articles that discuss it (you could Google it)... :lol: but here is an example:

    Another blogger shared the results of his spam folder in Gmail...most of it was from right leaning organizations.

    Personally, I am bothered in the censorship of some remarkable things in history (Doodles on their landing page) but yet the celebration of other things. Such as:

    I understand how "great" the results can be and I admit that I use a lot of Google products (Gmail, calendar, an Android phone) but that doesn't mean that I agree with how they are doing things. And no...I am not going to stop using their products to "take a stand". There are over 1 billion monthly views of Gmail, so me forgoing Google will do nothing to stop their takeover of the world. It is what it is.
  8. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

    The political or idealogical hiding of results, censorship is disturbing
  9. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

    I use Dogpile. No, really I do.
  10. TITAN308

    TITAN308 :) :) :)

    This is like asking if the internet is a good idea.

    Pros: Unmatched information availability.

    Cons: Every douche flute with an internet connection is on there.
  11. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

    I use Google. Lots of crap, and my search returns are obviously targeted based on my browsing history (which may be useful, and sometimes makes the searches truly more relevant), BUT IT WORKS.
    I've tried other browsers just a few times each, and they're not as good.
    On my i-Phone, I set the default search engine to be Google, too.
  12. AtlPhilip

    AtlPhilip Proud GCO member.

    Add &pws=0 to the end of the URL generated after performing a Google search. Basically, this tells Google to turn off personalized web search.
  13. GM404

    GM404 Well-Known Member