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I know this has been discussed and answered, but I'm still confused. Before anyone can jump on that, I know I'm confused about many, many things, not just this. But.....

Did the last revision of our antiquated gun laws finally open up the non-secure areas of the Atlanta airport for carry or not?
 

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You can carry outside the building, in your car, and in the parking lot. It is almost certainly illegal inside of the building.
 

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Confederate Tyrant said:
It seems like only Hartsfield is off limits because they house a division of APD.
I assume that by "the airport" he meant HJAIA.
 

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Airport terminals disappeared as a restricted area when the list of places under "public gatherings" disappeared. The confusion now rests in the fact that many terminals house "government entities", hence making it a government building. I think this is weak, and I don't think other terminals would care. Augusta was allowing curbside carry prior to SB-308. They do house an office of the Richmond County Sheriff's Office, but that's upstairs. I'd be willing to bet they would allow carry in the terminal now. I need to go back out there, and talk to them.

We need a test case, "Macktee". Come on! It could be part of your legacy! :lol:
 

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the City and the Airport Management certainly THINK that they can ban guns from the airport, and they got a federal judge to agree with them. Regardless of any state laws on the subject, they say they have federal law on their side, even though they can't point to a single federal statute prohibiting guns at commercial passenger air terminals.

Also, it may be relevant to note that there was a bill introduced to specifically allow airport carry (in the non-secure areas of the airport), and if I recall correctly, although it passed in the General Assembley, the Governor VETOED it.
So it is not part of our law.
But the fact that it was introduced and considred shows that the legislators considered the Atlanta Airport to be currently off-limits under existing law, and they tried to reverse that, but they were unsuccessful.

Bottom line: I'm not carrying at the airport until there is both a specific state law clearly authorizing it, and mentioning airport terminals and airport buildings specifically.
 

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the City and the Airport Management certainly THINK that they can ban guns from the airport, and they got a federal judge to agree with them. Regardless of any state laws on the subject, they say they have federal law on their side, even though they can't point to a single federal statute prohibiting guns at commercial passenger air terminals.

Also, it may be relevant to note that there was a bill introduced to specifically allow airport carry (in the non-secure areas of the airport), and if I recall correctly, although it passed in the General Assembley, the Governor VETOED it.
So it is not part of our law.
But the fact that it was introduced and considred shows that the legislators considered the Atlanta Airport to be currently off-limits under existing law, and they tried to reverse that, but they were unsuccessful.

Bottom line: I'm not carrying at the airport until there is both a specific state law clearly authorizing it, and mentioning airport terminals and airport buildings specifically.
Aside from the confusion in the jungle of Government building definitions, can anyone cite a specific state law that specifically prohibits airport carry?
 
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I think it all hangs on the definition of Government Building and related Government Entity. Clearly, the Atlanta airport terminal meets that definition it would seem.
 

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I'll be a test case. We have Marines coming back from Iraq tommorrow night at 2200 (10pm). They're talking about having us wear our service uniforms for the greeting, but if I go in civvy's (civilian attire), I will open carry. I think being in the military I should be exempted, so if need be I can fall back on that.

Now, this is all provided that my command doesn't prohibit me from open carrying before I even get there. lol.

Not to mention, it also boils down if I just plain chicken out.
 

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I'll be a test case. We have Marines coming back from Iraq tommorrow night at 2200 (10pm). They're talking about having us wear our service uniforms for the greeting, but if I go in civvy's (civilian attire), I will open carry. I think being in the military I should be exempted, so if need be I can fall back on that.

Now, this is all provided that my command doesn't prohibit me from open carrying before I even get there. lol.

Not to mention, it also boils down if I just plain chicken out.
You hold the same exemptions as any LEO. You shouldn't have any problem, but carry a copy of the law with you. Call me, if you need bailed out! :lol:
 

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higabyte said:
I'll be a test case. We have Marines coming back from Iraq tommorrow night at 2200 (10pm). They're talking about having us wear our service uniforms for the greeting, but if I go in civvy's (civilian attire), I will open carry. I think being in the military I should be exempted, so if need be I can fall back on that.

Now, this is all provided that my command doesn't prohibit me from open carrying before I even get there. lol.

Not to mention, it also boils down if I just plain chicken out.
You hold the same exemptions as any LEO. You shouldn't have any problem, but carry a copy of the law with you. Call me, if you need bailed out! :lol:
I always carry a copy of the law with me just in case, guess I'm just paranoid. I will definitely give you a call if I need a bailout lol, I don't know who else I'd call anyways. Guess I could call David to come bail me out, but I guess ultimately, it'd be you bailing me out in that case too hhahaah ...
 

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higabyte said:
I'll be a test case. We have Marines coming back from Iraq tommorrow night at 2200 (10pm). They're talking about having us wear our service uniforms for the greeting, but if I go in civvy's (civilian attire), I will open carry. I think being in the military I should be exempted, so if need be I can fall back on that.

Now, this is all provided that my command doesn't prohibit me from open carrying before I even get there. lol.

Not to mention, it also boils down if I just plain chicken out.
You are exemped, so its legal for you. Just be sure to have your military ID on you (and your GWL doesn't legally help, but it couldn't hurt).
 

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I think it all hangs on the definition of Government Building and related Government Entity. Clearly, the Atlanta airport terminal meets that definition it would seem.
This. :up:
 

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Well all I know is I do NOT want to take a trip to the Clayton Co pokey!!!! I will not carry inside the building until it is as clear as day according to the laws.
 

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Fly-In a great success. By 10:30 am this morning there were 250+ airplanes and at least 300+ by noon. I, with my friend, sat under the wing of his 1944 Howard DGA much of the day and sat by the runway most of the morning. Talked with few LEOs about the airplane stuff....but no mention of my revolver.

At no time, other than most of my friends, did anyone comment on my revolver...not even the LEOs. I guess the sheeple didn't get scared this time...but then again, this is south Georgia, not Atlanta!
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Yeap, there is great confusion over airport BUILDING carry or simply put....."can I carry into a building at an airport?".....if such place to carry is not beyond the Federal Restricted Areas otherwise known as TSAs.

In my above quote I never broke any law. I did not carry into a building that "housed" a gov entity nor did I enter or pass onto any part prohibited by Federal Law. AND YES I was within 100 feet of the runway sitting in a lounge chair watching old airplanes take off and land and had the ability to walk across the runway as well to help a freind with his airplane! Here is the tricky part....on the fence that surrounds the ramp area there are signs that say restricted area.....but it ain't no TSA or federal restricted areas by any gun laws!

Idiot politicians in Atlanta just don't get it!
 

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O.C.G.A. § 16-12-127 Prohibition on firearms, hazardous substances, knives, or other devices; penalty; affirmative defenses

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person, with the intention of avoiding or interfering with a security measure or of introducing into a terminal any explosive, destructive device, or hoax device as defined in Code Section 16-7-80; firearm for which such person does not have on his or her person a valid weapons carry license issued pursuant to Code Section 16-11-129 unless possessing such firearm is prohibited by federal law; hazardous substance as defined by Code Section 12-8-92; or knife or other device designed or modified for the purpose of offense and defense, to:

(1) Have any such item on or about his or her person, or

(2) Place or cause to be placed or attempt to place or cause to be placed any such item:

(A) In a container or freight of a transportation company;

(B) In the baggage or possessions of any person or any transportation company without the knowledge of the passenger or transportation company; or

(C) Aboard such aircraft, bus, or rail vehicle.
 

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O.C.G.A. § 16-11-127 Carrying weapons in unauthorized locations; penalty

(a) As used in this Code section, the term:
. . .
(3) "Government building" means:

(A) The building in which a government entity is housed;

. . .
(4) "Government entity" means an office, agency, authority, department, commission, board, body, division, instrumentality, or institution of the state or any county, municipal corporation, consolidated government, or local board of education within this state.

(5) "Parking facility" means real property owned or leased by a government entity . . . that has been designated by such government entity . . . for the parking of motor vehicles at a government building or at such courthouse, jail, prison, place of worship, or bar.

(b) A person shall be guilty of carrying a weapon or long gun in an unauthorized location and punished as for a misdemeanor when he or she carries a weapon or long gun while:

(1) In a government building;

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(d) Subsection (b) of this Code section shall not apply:

. . . (2) To a license holder who approaches security or management personnel upon arrival at a location described in subsection (b) of this Code section and notifies such security or management personnel of the presence of the weapon or long gun and explicitly follows the security or management personnel's direction for removing, securing, storing, or temporarily surrendering such weapon or long gun; and

(3) To a weapon or long gun possessed by a license holder which is under the possessor's control in a motor vehicle or is in a locked compartment of a motor vehicle or one which is in a locked container in or a locked firearms rack which is on a motor vehicle and such vehicle is parked in a parking facility.
 

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Savvy Jack said:
Now that we now know what a Gov Entity is, lets move on!!!!!

16-11-127
(a) As used in this Code section, the term:
(3) 'Government building' means:
(A) The building in which a government entity is housed;
(B) The building where a government entity meets in its official capacity;
provided,
however, that if such building is not a publicly owned building, such building shall be
considered a government building for the purposes of this Code section only during
the time such government entity is meeting at such building; or
(C) The portion of any building that is not a publicly owned building that is occupied
by a government entity.

We know that a Government building is now referred to as being occupied by an actual Gov Entity but how? We have to figure out what "housed" means. Does this mean a building that was built for an Entity or does this mean (after looking at (C)), if an entity is located in any publicly owned building, even just a part of that building, then such building is now off limits as opposed to just a portion of that building as in (C). If this is the case now I can understand why the "airport" language was dropped when referring to the passenger terminal in the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport. I assure you, although I am not 100% that "Building" "Houses" an Entity.
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gunsmoker said:
Also, it may be relevant to note that there was a bill introduced to specifically allow airport carry (in the non-secure areas of the airport), and if I recall correctly, although it passed in the General Assembley, the Governor VETOED it.
So it is not part of our law.
That was SB291. This bill also contained the Katrina language that would prevent the seizure of weapons during a declared state of emergency. Keep in mind this bill passed both houses overwhelmingly before Gov. Perdue vetoed it and that this veto can still be overridden in the next session. This may be one of the things we need to ask our new and returning representatives to do.
 
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