Interesting conversation with a Snellville police officer

Discussion in 'Places Off-Limits' started by newarcher, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. newarcher

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    Nice lady...I crossed paths with her and asked her what her interpretation of the CCW laws are.

    Basically, she agreed it needed to be changed for both Officer Safety and Public Safety issues and for protection of the CCW holder.

    She cited the listed places that were off limits that we all know. She also indicated that she would not hassle me if found carrying in a mall or restaurant that doesn't serve alcohol or a movie theater. However, she also agreed that it wouldn't be universally that way for each officer.

    She did say that the general feeling among the police is that someone taking the time and energy and money to CCW is a good guy and unless you are being a jerk aka the "It is my right to carry open in WalMart despite them asking me to leave", they would not generally hassle you.

    Great encounter and a very nice lady. I think the last name was Baxter...a great example of an interface with the public that is positive.

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  3. Malum Prohibitum

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  4. GAGunOwner

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    It's sad that when a cop actually knows the law we get excited.
     
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  6. M249

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    I think that's a very important question...
     
  7. newarcher

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    I must admit....the Snellville police uniforms are kind of a turn on when worn by a woman. They look like many large city swat uniforms...all black, tactical gear, etc.

    She was actually pretty cute and the fact she had a gun added to the effect.

    It's official, she was hot! :D

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  8. mzmtg

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    She would have to be pretty hot for me to get over my disgust at seeing cops dressed like soldiers.
     
  9. legacy38

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    Remember the line in A Few Good Men where Jack Nicholson talks about having to salute a woman in the morning? When I was in AFROTC, I had a female flight commander that ordinarily would have just rated as "cute", but Jack was right. She sure could wear a set of BDUs, and it was all I could do to keep from trotting out a line when popping a salute her way. :twisted:
     
  10. newarcher

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    IMHO, the cops are there to protect me...if nothing else but in a show of force. I know that in Lawrenceville, the Police were taken very seriously.

    I want them looking as menacing as possible. It is the only thing that a thug understands. In fact, I would like to see them carrying full automatic weapons....perhaps an MP5.

    I have absolutely no reason to run afoul of the law so I fear them not.

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  11. legacy38

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    While I definitely prefer the comfort of a "tactical" style uniform, I must admit that a more professional/traditional looking uniform tends to work a bit better than the ready for war look does for routine work. We tend to go with a happy median, and there are several companies out there now producing some nice looking uniforms that are far more comfortable than the traditional polyester stuff.
     
  12. newarcher

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    That was a great movie...except I was siding with Jack! :D Outstanding acting by Jack......

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  13. Dan H

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    lol :lol:
     
  14. mzmtg

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    Do you want them looking menacing while they intimidate your wife or your kid into consenting to a warrantless search of her vehicle or your house?

    I don't.

    The police are supposed to protect and serve, not intimidate and harass.

    They are NOT soldiers. We (mere citizens) are NOT the enemy.

    They should dress and act like distinguished public servants, not battle hardened troops.
     
  15. M249

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    =D> =D> =D>

    Newarcher, except for VERY limited roles, I don't support the use of automatic weapons by our police. Have you been to countries where the police behave more like soldiers than cops?
     
  16. newarcher

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    You must live a very different life than I do.

    I have lived a whole 37 years and never once had my wife/child/myself be a victim of a warrantless search of my home or car. I haven't even been stopped by a cop.

    I guess I would say that a lot of you guys are anarchists or are very very paranoid.

    The police are the first line of defense against the bad guys who have them (and me) outgunned. I want them to have the latest, greatest and meanest looking weapons that they can possibly carry.

    You guys crack me up.

    You guys act like the anti's do. Don't give the police automatic, high powered weapons because the mere fact that they have such a thing will make the gun jump up out of their hands and shoot me and my family up. Comeon, be realistic. The anti's say that an extra five rounds in my gun makes me a terrorist. Think about how you sound.

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  17. Dan H

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    Do you think the police are there to personally protect you in the event of a crime?

    Do you believe our police are highly trained in the use of automatic weapons let alone basic marksmanship?

    Do you believe that police are experts on the law and never interpret the law based on their own opinions and biases?
     
  18. mzmtg

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    I've never personally had a bad encounter with a cop. I've gotten a few traffic tickets, but I deserved them and the officers were very professional. The one time I was greeted at my car window with a red-faced cop screaming, "YOU'RE F**KING STUPID! YOU KNOW THAT?!?"...I deserved that too.

    I'd call myself a mildly paranoid minarchist.

    I don't have a problem with cops having serious firepower.

    I DO have a problem with them displaying it when there's no reason. We don't need to be constantly intimidated and reminded how strong and powerful they are. We need to feel like they are there to help us, not merely process us into the criminal justice system as quickly (and often violently) as possible.

    "Shock and awe" should not be the attitude of the average patrol officer.
     
  19. newarcher

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    No, I take my personal protection upon myself. However, the police are there to stop any crime that they can possibly stop. Logic dictates that is impossible to stop all crime but I appreciate the police that protect my home and person as much as they possibly can.

    Just like military and just like other nations, the police need training. That goes for whether or not they have automatic weapons. I don't know where you live but the police have to qualify with their weapon to be a police officer.

    No, they certainly interpret the law...look at the public gathering debacle. That is what the courts are for...

    The police are just like everyone else, human. I guess if I had to deal with a bunch of yahoos like some here that consider my very existence a threat to their lives, I would be a little perturbed too. I have never had a bad experience with an officer.

    I guess that other people may conduct themselves in such ways that they have reason to fear the police, I am not one of them. Without the police around, you and I would probably be dead because the criminals would have their hay day.

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  20. mzmtg

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    But it is still appropriate to question their methods.