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Yukon Cornelius
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Re: In Alabama

http://handgunlaw.us/states/alabama.pdf
Places Off-Limits Even With A Permit/License
Section 13A-11-72
Premises of a public school. The term "public school" as used in this section applies only to a school
composed of grades K-12 and shall include a school bus used for grades K-12
(c) Subject to the exceptions provided by Section 13A-11-74, no person shall knowingly with intent to do
bodily harm carry or possess a deadly weapon on the premises of a public school.
(d) Possession of a deadly weapon with the intent to do bodily harm on the premises of a public school in
violation of subsection (c) of this section is a Class C felony.
(e) Law enforcement officers are exempt from this section, and persons with pistol permits issued pursuant to
Section 13A-11-75, are exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) of this section.
Note: Permit/License holders can carry in schools. I put the law here so people could see it.
Section 13A-11-59
Possession of Firearms by Persons Participating in, Attending, Etc., Demonstrations at Public Places.
(a) For the purposes of this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings respectively
ascribed to them in this subsection, except in those instances where the context clearly indicates a different
meaning:
(1) DEMONSTRATION. Demonstrating, picketing, speechmaking or marching, holding of vigils and all
other like forms of conduct which involve the communication or expression of views or grievances engaged
in by one or more persons, the conduct of which has the effect, intent or propensity to draw a crowd or
onlookers. Such term shall not include casual use of property by visitors or tourists which does not have an
intent or propensity to attract a crowd or onlookers.
(2) FIREARM. Any pistol, rifle, shotgun or firearm of any kind, whether loaded or not.
(3) LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Any duly appointed and acting federal, state, county or municipal
law enforcement officer, peace officer or investigating officer, or any military or militia personnel called out
or directed by constituted authority to keep the law and order, and any park ranger while acting as such on
the grounds of a public park and who is on regular duty and present to actively police and control the http://www.handgunlaw.us 3
demonstration, and who is assigned this duty by his department or agency. Such term does not include a
peace officer on strike or a peace officer not on duty.
(4) PUBLIC PLACE. Any place to which the general public has access and a right to resort for business,
entertainment or other lawful purpose, but does not necessarily mean a place devoted solely to the uses of the
public. Such term shall include the front or immediate area or parking lot of any store, shop, restaurant,
tavern, shopping center or other place of business. Such term shall also include any public building, the
grounds of any public building, or within the curtilage of any public building, or in any public parking lot,
public street, right-of-way, sidewalk right-of-way, or within any public park or other public grounds.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer, to have in his or her possession
or on his or her person or in any vehicle any firearm while participating in or attending any demonstration
being held at a public place.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer as defined in subsection (a) of
this section, to have in his or her possession or about his or her person or in any vehicle at a point within
1,000 feet of a demonstration at a public place, any firearm after having first been advised by a law
enforcement officer that a demonstration was taking place at a public place and after having been ordered by
such officer to remove himself or herself from the prescribed area until such time as he or she no longer was
in possession of any firearm.
This subsection shall not apply to any person in possession of or having on his
or her person any firearm within a private dwelling or other private building or structure.

"Handgunlaw.us highly recommends that you not enter a place that is posted "No Firearms" no matter what
the state laws read/mean on signage. We recommend you print out the No Guns = No Money Cards and
give one to the owner of the establishment that has the signage." As responsible gun owners and upholders of
the 2nd Amendment we should also honor the rights of property owners to control their own property even if
we disagree with them."
â€No Firearm†signs in Alabama have no force of law unless they are posted on property that is
specifically mentioned in State Law as being off limits to those with a Permit/License to Carry. If you are in
a place not specifically mentioned in the law that is posted and they ask you to leave, you must leave. If you
refuse to leave then you are breaking the law and can be charged. Even if the property is not posted and you
are ask to leave you must leave. Always be aware of the possibility that responding Police Officers who may
have been called without your knowledge and may not know the laws on trespass etc. could arrest you even
if you are within the law.
 

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Re: In Alabama

also in the above it says permit holders can carry in schools...but that is for alabama permit holders no others are exempt from the federal gun free zone for carry...
 

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Also know that Alabama LEOs are the same as Georgia LEOs. Some are knowledgeable and very 2A friendly and some are the opposite.
Adding to their confusion is the fact that Alabama Sheriffs, who issue permits there, are allowed to place extra restrictions on carry permits in their counties. Some of the restrictions are contrary to state law. There has been a lot of debate in the past as to whether or not these restrictions are valid for the entire state or just that county.

I was questioned once by a LEO for carrying at a restaurant that served acohol because the local sheriff added that restriction to permits in that county. The LEO was very courteous and professional. He didn't even ask to see my GFL that I explained I was carrying with and I explained that it was my understanding that I was only prohibited from carrying in locations specified by the state. He agreed and only asked me, along with the restaurant manager, to better conceal my mag holder, which I had inadvertently exposed.

OCing seems to be very rare, although it has been heavily argued that there is nothing in Alabama code that specifies concealed carry. There have been arrests of people for OCing.

Unlike Georgia, I believe there are a number of limited instances when you may have a loaded firearm in your vehicle in Alabama without a permit.

The state only opened their state parks to carry last year. I was advised that they require that you conceal it while there.
 

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Rhodes said:
The state only opened their state parks to carry last year. I was advised that they require that you conceal it while there.
You were advised incorrectly. The Alabama Constitution and the State v Reid decision upholds open carry.

The problem is, their firearm permit is a CCW permit, so a fair number of their LEO's believe you MUST conceal with your permit. They've illegally arrested citizens who've open carried.

There is no AL state law or state park rule that bans OC in their state parks.
 

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Phil1979 said:
Rhodes said:
The state only opened their state parks to carry last year. I was advised that they require that you conceal it while there.
You were advised incorrectly. The Alabama Constitution and the State v Reid decision upholds open carry.

The problem is, their firearm permit is a CCW permit, so a fair number of their LEO's believe you MUST conceal with your permit. They've illegally arrested citizens who've open carried.

There is no AL state law or state park rule that bans OC in their state parks.
Besides State v. Reid, from 1840, there is also an Alabama AG's official opinion from the 1980s stating that unlicensed OC is legal.

I'm not an attorney nor have I studied every page of Alabama code and thus I stated what I had been told about carry in state parks and nothing more.
 

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rmodel65 said:
also in the above it says permit holders can carry in schools...but that is for alabama permit holders no others are exempt from the federal gun free zone for carry...
Colleges are gtg because fed law doesn't cover them.
 

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I'm headed to Huntsville soon and have read the page on handgunlaw.us. Everyplace I am going looks OK, except US Space & Rocket Center. I would guess that it is prohibited federal property. Any idea if it is OK to be locked in the car? I can't find any useful info on their website. It will be a pain to safely store my weapon at the hotel that day, but I don't want trouble that far from home. My past reading of federal law seems like it applies to posted federal buildings, which would not to prohibit the parking lot. But this facility might be on Redstone Arsenal property, so it's not clear that parking lot is OK.
 

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cpelliott said:
I'm headed to Huntsville soon and have read the page on handgunlaw.us. Everyplace I am going looks OK, except US Space & Rocket Center.
Not sure about the validity of the article but might give you a place to start.
On land that was once a giant cotton field owned by the US Army, with equipment from NASA, and the inspirational insight of Dr. Wernher von Braun, the US Space & Rocket Center, was created. It is owned by the state of Alabama, much like a state park, and opened in 1970 with Ed Buckbee as its first director.
http://huntsville.about.com/cs/attracti ... cecamp.htm
 

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Try this link, you may have to dig a bit but all the info is there.

http://www.alabamaopencarry.com/

The laws governing carry in Alabama are 13a-11-52, 13a-11-55, and 13a-11-72. Also 13a-11-73

Reference also Article 26 of the Alabama state constitution (ratified in 1901).

There is an AG's opinion and also an AL Supreme Court opinion clarifying legal carry.

Good luck and carry on!
 
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