[gsusnake]

What should I get?

9mm, .40S&W, .45 ACP, .45GAP?

Glock? Springfield XD? any other manufacturer?

The guy at the store today nearly talked me into an XD, I went in wanting a Glock but after firing the two I really really really like the XD.

I want a Glock (75% of LE agencies can't be wrong) but the Springfield seems to be a really good gun.

I want something full-size (15+ round mags), easily modified (laser, new sights, etc.) and reliable.

I also want to go with a large caliber... 9mm is a little smaller than I'm interested in. I've already got a .40 so I'm thinking .45, and I'm wondering if anyone has any input on the difference between the ACP and GAP.

Thanks in advance.

 

[gsusnake]

For the record, I'm not trying to start a caliber debate.

Nor a "Glocks are plastic waterguns" debate.

And I'm aware that that's what I'm asking, but please try to be civil. :wink:

Opinions of those who own both would be great.

 

[foshizzle]

Wow.. what a cluster#$## of information.. :lol:

Have you even handled a .45 sub-compact/compact Glock? I urge you to do so. Your opinions may change. They are really thick and unwieldy. The XD's, I think, are nice. I like the mag options and I just like Springfield. If you are going the route of a full-sized pistol, I don't think you need lasers or all those accoutrements... that's just my opinion.

Just get a G23 or G27. If you like those plastic guns. Seriously, just go to the gun-store and play with them all. Most places will let you rent at least one of them, especially Glocks. I think they are crap... but...

There is a lot to be said for .45's.

It really comes down to a personal choice. I've shot pretty much every major pistol caliber and I know what I like.

 

[Dan H]

What do you currently have?

Anytime you are up near Atlanta, let me know, I will let you shoot my XD. I think you would like it.

 

[legacy38]

It's not a 15+ rounder, but the new Glock 21SF is a hoot to shoot, and it has 13+1 capacity of .45ACP. I won't kncok the XD at all, but I do like the 21SF better than the XD .45. You won't go wrong either way.

 

[steelhorses]

Read up - Glock torture test! http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Item

 

[foshizzle]

Notice the one empty cartridge before it locked back.

 

[gsusnake]

Wow.. what a cluster#$## of information.. :lol:

Have you even handled a .45 sub-compact/compact Glock? I urge you to do so. Your opinions may change. They are really thick and unwieldy. The XD's, I think, are nice. I like the mag options and I just like Springfield. If you are going the route of a full-sized pistol, I don't think you need lasers or all those accoutrements... that's just my opinion.

Just get a G23 or G27. If you like those plastic guns. Seriously, just go to the gun-store and play with them all. Most places will let you rent at least one of them, especially Glocks. I think they are crap... but...

There is a lot to be said for .45's.

It really comes down to a personal choice. I've shot pretty much every major pistol caliber and I know what I like.

I don't NEED lasers or all those other accoutrements... but I want 'em.

:lol:

 

[gsusnake]

What do you currently have?

Anytime you are up near Atlanta, let me know, I will let you shoot my XD. I think you would like it.

Taurus PT140 Millenium Pro.

Nice, but small. I want a big one.

I really like the Taurus 24/7 9mm, but I want a .45, I think.

 

[Dan H]

Read up - Glock torture test! http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Item

XD Torture Test:
http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php

 

[triggerman357]

What do you currently have?

Anytime you are up near Atlanta, let me know, I will let you shoot my XD. I think you would like it.

Taurus PT140 Millenium Pro.

Nice, but small. I want a big one.

I really like the Taurus 24/7 9mm, but I want a .45, I think.

If you like the Taurus brand and you want a .45, then I believe you can't go wrong with the PT1911 by Taurus. I've heard nothing good reviews about this gun, plus you get all upgrades of higher end 1911 models without the hefty price tag. I would go with .45 ACP over the .45 GAP because I've heard stories that .45 GAP kicks like a mule and high pressure rounds wear down a gun quicker than a .45 ACP.

 

[tj2000]

What should I get?

9mm, .40S&W, .45 ACP, .45GAP?

Glock? Springfield XD? any other manufacturer?

The guy at the store today nearly talked me into an XD, I went in wanting a Glock but after firing the two I really really really like the XD.

I want a Glock (75% of LE agencies can't be wrong) but the Springfield seems to be a really good gun.

I want something full-size (15+ round mags), easily modified (laser, new sights, etc.) and reliable.

I also want to go with a large caliber... 9mm is a little smaller than I'm interested in. I've already got a .40 so I'm thinking .45, and I'm wondering if anyone has any input on the difference between the ACP and GAP.

Thanks in advance.

GS,
When it comes to buying a weapon for your personal protection you really need to find one that fits you and not 75% of so called experts. I work with several of these experts and by and large the populas of officers do not get much of a choice in what they carry.
Back to my original statement of buy what you are comfortable with and can shoot well. The reliabilty needs to play in to the equation but when it comes to those torture tests you need to remember that unless you are in those extremes most of your good modern day weapons will be fine for your needs.
Just a little suggestion, have you tried a 1911 platform?
:2cents:

 

[USMC - Retired]

How about a HK 45C? Read about them here.

Oh by the way. You can't get them in the US yet. That is of course unless you come to the Albany Friends of NRA Night Out on 27 July. We will have for auction the new HK 45 and HK 45C. The winners of this auction will be geting these pistols BEFORE HK releases them to dealers!

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

There are certainly many excellent firearms on the market. XD's are in the group although I have never shot one before. A G30 is an excellent choice in a 45.

 

[Sharky]

What do you currently have?

Anytime you are up near Atlanta, let me know, I will let you shoot my XD. I think you would like it.

Taurus PT140 Millenium Pro.

Nice, but small. I want a big one.

I really like the Taurus 24/7 9mm, but I want a .45, I think.

If you like the Taurus brand and you want a .45, then I believe you can't go wrong with the PT1911 by Taurus. I've heard nothing good reviews about this gun, plus you get all upgrades of higher end 1911 models without the hefty price tag. I would go with .45 ACP over the .45 GAP because I've heard stories that .45 GAP kicks like a mule and high pressure rounds wear down a gun quicker than a .45 ACP.

I have a 24/7 in 9mm and most of the people that shoot it end up changing their opinion of the gun. Once they hold it something clicks in your head with the grip itself. The balance of the gun feels good. Heck even has 17 round mags as well. I think for the price and the application I use it for it cant be beat. I havent had any issues with the gun at all. No jams, anything. I have had 2 dud rounds that didnt fire (crappy ammo), but not one jam. It will eat anything you put in it. Fist makes great holsters for the gun and I recommend them highly.

 

[mzmtg]

Personally, I'd go for the new S&W M&P series over Glocks. They are in the same price range, but have a 20-something-year newer design, interchangeable backstraps, and don't look like blocks of wood.

Much of the same can be said of Taurus' 24/7 series.

Both can be had in 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.

 

[RepeatDefender]

+1 for the M&P in .40 or .45, really nice guns! I love my M&P 40, and 15+1 rds of 140gr Corbon DPX makes me feel very comfortable. Easy to shoot, ergonomically sound. Nothing against Glocks as they are fine tools as well, but the M&P looks nicer, feels nicer, and in my opinion runs better.

 

[Rammstein]

XD Torture Test:

"let it thaw out on the way to the Oak Tree Gun Club" what is the point of freezing it if you are just going to let it thaw out? lame.

 

[Rammstein]

XDs and M&Ps may be newer....but they are not proven like Glocks. I've shot all three in 9mm. I have to say that I do like all three, but it is ease of cleaning, availibility of parts, and being able to do work on my own gun that wins me over to Glock.

 

[Dan H]

XD Torture Test:

"let it thaw out on the way to the Oak Tree Gun Club" what is the point of freezing it if you are just going to let it thaw out? lame.

So, you want them to try and shoot it frozen solid? I dont think that will work...On ANY gun...

The test was to see if the ice will damage the internals being that water expands when it is frozen and in most cases damaging things because of this. But I could be wrong....