HR 1112 3 Day Wait to Clear Background Check Increased

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by Malum Prohibitum, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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  2. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how this would affect buyers such as in GA where our carry license obviates the need of the NICS check?

    A "clear consensus" is based on feeeeelz, Jerry, not facts.
     

  3. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Text is up now but I don't see anything addressing my query. Unless I don't understand lawyerese very well.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Bill does not appear to affect those with qualifying licenses.
     
  5. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe they just didn't think the entire process through thoroughly.
     
  6. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Turning a Right into a Privilege: HR 1112 Gives Feds Power to Block Gun Sales

    Ammoland Inc. Posted on February 18, 2019 by NRAHQ

    "Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2019/02/tu...-feds-power-to-block-gun-sales/#ixzz5fzP9qFrW
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    Under the proposed legislation, the 3-day safety valve would be eliminated and replaced with a procedure that provides gun buyers with no protection. If an FFL initiates a check and does not receive a response from NICS after 10 business days, the prospective purchaser may petition the FBI to permit the transfer to proceed. The FFL may not proceed with the transaction until an additional 10 business days have elapsed from the date of the petition.

    Existing federal law limits the validity of a NICS background check to 30 calendar days from the date it is initiated. Because H.R. 1112 uses business days and the NICS validity provision is in calendar days, in practice, H.R. 1112 would have no default proceed available.

    For example, if H.R. 1112 were to become law, gun buyers who are delayed on the busiest gun buying day of the year, Black Friday, would not be able to clear their delay under H.R. 1112’s provisions before their NICS check expired. Black Friday 2019 falls on November 29th, so the first day that the prospective purchaser could file a petition would be December 14th.

    The additional 10-business day wait after the petition would make December 31st the first day that the FFL could transfer the firearm, but that would be prohibited because the NICS check expired on December 29th. The purchaser would have to begin the process again with another NICS check, with the likely result being another delay and the process beginning all over again."
     
  7. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    The White House on Monday issued a statement warning that President Trump would veto proposed legislation to enhance background checks for gun purchases if it passes the House and Senate.

    The legislation in question, H.R. 8 and H.R. 1112
     
  8. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    I smell some fresh air.
     
  9. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Bravo Prez T, Bravo!

    Nemo
     
  10. jmorriss

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    But we can't have the same level of scrutiny over voting rights...
     
  11. jrm

    jrm Sledgehammer

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    The GWL qualifies as an alternative to the NICS check.
     
  12. moe mensale

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    That's true for Georgia's carry license. But other states' licenses, such as Florida's, don't qualify as a NICS alternative because they're valid for over 5 years. FL use to have a 5 year expiration then they increased it to 7 years back in 2008 and we lost that ability.
     
  13. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    They are basically a NICS check that is good for 5 years and not just the standard 30 days.

    Nemo
     
  14. tmoore912

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  15. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    That's two gun control bills from the House today.
     
  16. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    DemocRats know where their Bloomberg bread is buttered.

    Let's hope this backfires royally:

    1. Neither will pass

    2. Some of them, hopefully a bunch, will get voted out of office.

    However, it may be the wackiness of the New Green Deal that has the best result in sinking them. Release the AOC-ken! :lol:
     
  17. moe mensale

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    Now that you mention it, there is a bit of resemblance in the mouth and teeth. :righton:
     
  18. moe mensale

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    It's not just Cortez. Let's not forget Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and a few others that are ruffling Pelosi's and other senior dems feathers. The Bernie Sanders wing of the party will look like moderates if these radical socialists gain traction. Look at how several dem 2020 presidential candidates are sucking up to Cortez's New Green Deal.
     
  19. Mrs_Esterhouse

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    Is there any empirical data showing that waiting periods have saved lives or are we in the world of imagination, hypotheticals and feelings?