How does a cop not learn this in basic?

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by TITAN308, May 8, 2017.

  1. TITAN308

    TITAN308 :) :) :)

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    Source: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...ilent_d.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

    Provided everything in the story is accurate what a bunch of dumbnuts... :|

    In other good news I hope to finish my college courses by mid-2018 and start in the academy that fall/winter. :drink:

    Unless someone is shooting at you, trying to stab you, or even fist fight you in uniform don't take the stuff personal. Especially not the "Respect my authority!" junk.
     
  2. UtiPossidetis

    UtiPossidetis American

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    Unfortunately, its not that rare. Frankly if true those officers are Class A morons.

    I find a lot more patience and professionalism among the Sheriff Deputies around these parts than I do the County/City owned police.
     

  3. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Surely this is not just making its appearance here? Note the date under the vid-- May 05, 2016. Or is this a one year remembrance of cop lunacy.

    Side note-- the date in the video is 10-16-15.

    Nemo
     
  4. Fallschirmjäger

    Fallschirmjäger I watch the watchers

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    Serious question here...

    How hard is it to get on the mobile data terminal, or the in-car laptop, or the smartphone, or just the handy dandy paperback and actually y'know look up the law you're suspecting someone of having violated?

    Let me try... Googling now...



    I had to use two fingers to type "new jersey code obstruction" and voilà it was the very first :censored: result. So maybe... 3 seconds?
    Remaining silent or refusing to answer questions doesn't even come close.

    ETA: probably making an appearance as there seems to have been some action by the court lately. Unfortunately, I can't get to it behind the pay-wall.
     
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  5. CoffeeMate

    CoffeeMate Junior Butt Warmer

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    Don't you understand about "magic phrases" even after you were Pirkled?
     
  6. codegeek

    codegeek codegeek reincarnate

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    They know good and well that it wasn't "obstruction". They just wanted to inconvenience the woman at no cost to themselves. This kind of harassment by law enforcement is a major cause of the friction between themselves and those they are supposed to serve and protect.
     
  7. ber950

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    You would be surprised at how many cops really believe that this is alright. The fact that it usually works and doesn't bring any repercussions doesn't help. On the other hand one expensive case can trigger a department wide training program.
     
  8. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

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    Here is the Georgia code.


    2015 Georgia Code
    Title 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES
    Chapter 10 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION
    Article 2 - OBSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND RELATED OFFENSES
    § 16-10-24 - Obstructing or hindering law enforcement officers


    Universal Citation: GA Code § 16-10-24 (2015)
    (a) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (b) of this Code section, a person who knowingly and willfully obstructs or hinders any law enforcement officer in the lawful discharge of his official duties is guilty of a misdemeanor.
    (b) Whoever knowingly and willfully resists, obstructs, or opposes any law enforcement officer, prison guard, correctional officer, community supervision officer, county or Department of Juvenile Justice juvenile probation officer, probation officer serving pursuant to Article 6 of Chapter 8 of Title 42, or conservation ranger in the lawful discharge of his or her official duties by offering or doing violence to the person of such officer or legally authorized person is guilty of a felony and shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.
     
  9. CoffeeMate

    CoffeeMate Junior Butt Warmer

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    So, some Legislative Clarity -- laws cannot render rights moot. Some agency education and policy change promulgation. Some officer training.

    Fixable. Anyone agree?
     
  10. UtiPossidetis

    UtiPossidetis American

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    Take a look at photographer harassment if you want to see this one abused. Lots of photographers on public land get harassed regularly by local yokels and federal police when theyre fully and completely within the law to take photos. The most common "charge" is obstructing because they wont answer 100+ questions by Barney Fife. There are good officers out there for sure but its amazing how often some peace officer will U turn to question you if your taking photos by yourself on a public street.
     
  11. GM404

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    I would think that this would have been a hot topic for ANY LEO training that has occurred in the last 5 years. LEO's *know* (or should know) that there are a significant number of folks out there that do understand how the Constitution works and *actually* will use the rights that are afforded to them. Not only that, how many of these idiots are on LE specific forums that have thread after thread after thread of types of encounters?

    I think it would take no more than 20 minutes and a couple of YouTube videos to explain (very clearly and succinctly for the extra-stupid ones) during training that a motorist doesn't have to say a DAMN thing to you.
     
  12. phaed

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    ITT: naive people that believe this was a case of ignorance, or if it was, that it's relevant

    what would happen to any of you if you pulled over someone and kidnapped them under threat of force?
     
  13. CoffeeMate

    CoffeeMate Junior Butt Warmer

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    How much benefit of the doubt do we get, and how well can we articulate?
     
  14. dam294

    dam294 Active Member

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    Ain't that the truth. Take a look at this video if you want to get your blood boiling. WARNING: There is some strong language towards the end of the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npxnlhQEtJw&ytbChannel=News Now Houston