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I wish the people who posted here on GPDO were half as principled as Mr. Johnson. Too many of us actually support business policies like this. That is, they support such policies in the strongest possible way. They reward businesses with cash for violating our fundamental human right to self defense. It's one thing to post Rah, Rah, 2A! on the internet, but quite another to live your principles in real life.
 

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If GCO had the cash people spend at businesses hostile to the right to bear arms, it would be a much more effective organization. Instead, they support the opposite with their cash.
 

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House of Blues, a Live Nation venue in South Carolina, announced its decision to cancel a Jamey Johnson concert after the singer's team refused to abide by the venue's weapons policy: "As always, the safety and security of our guests is our number one priority. Tonight's artist refused to adhere to our safety and security guidelines and would not enter the building."
We applaud House of Blues and Live Nation for their commitment to a gun sense policy that prioritizes the safety of all guests.
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Good.

I wish the people who posted here on GPDO were half as principled as Mr. Johnson. Too many of us actually support business policies like this. That is, they support such policies in the strongest possible way. They reward businesses with cash for violating our fundamental human right to self defense. It's one thing to post Rah, Rah, 2A! on the internet, but quite another to live your principles in real life.
The problem there being, depending on where you live and what's available, not patronizing such businesses isn't very practical. For some, such businesses are nearly the only option.
 

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The problem there being, depending on where you live and what's available, not patronizing such businesses isn't very practical. For some, such businesses are nearly the only option.
That sounds like a business opportunity to me.
 

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The problem there being, depending on where you live and what's available, not patronizing such businesses isn't very practical. For some, such businesses are nearly the only option.
Your location says you live in the second largest city in Georgia. Your options are not so limited. You can continue to support with money those who hate your very existence and rationalize it however you want.

If you were not speaking of yourself, then I have yet to see anybody post a convincing case of this on the web site yet. It usually boils down to, "But I like their wings, so you can stuff it."

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.â€
― Samuel Adams​
 

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But I like their wings, so you can stuff it.
And of course I can stuff it. I have no power over you or anybody else, but I can continue to attempt to persuade.

I have patronized such businesses in the past myself. I am becoming much less tolerant of doing so as I age and gain wisdom in how things work.

Just about ANYBODY who is not a member of this web site would restrict civil rights of all sorts if paid millions to do so. Most of the members of this web site would probably do so, too.

And when it gets right down to it, that is what we are discussing. These people are being paid millions to do so. If you patronize them, then you are rewarding them in the strongest way possible, with money.

Money talks - bull**** walks.

The latter is what is posted here. The former is what you really believe. Just trace the money, and we find your principles.
 

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sorry, Malum, but my "principles" don't require me to boycott all businesses that have policies I disagree with, or whose owners support causes and political movements that I disagree with.

My principles don't require me to drive 20 miles out of the way to find a restaurant that serves steak and eggs at 11 PM, when I know I can stop by my local Waffle House (and ignore that "no guns on the property" sign that they have posted).

Gun control isn't everything; the Second Amendment isn't the only thing that matters. Sometimes chicken wings are what matters !
Or seeing a band, a stand-up comic, or a theatrical production.
 

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Interesting view on principles. So the people with principles are willing to put a sign in their window and lose that revenue, actually telling customers to leave.

That's definitely putting a stake in the ground.
 

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Interesting view on principles. So the people with principles are willing to put a sign in their window and lose that revenue, actually telling customers to leave.

That's definitely putting a stake in the ground.
For the most part, they do not lose revenue. Gun carriers lack principles and eagerly hand over their money, anyway, for the sake of convenience.

Give me convenience or give me death!
-- Patrick Henry from a speech he made to the Second Virginia Convention on March 23, 1775, at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia.​
 

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No Gun Zone Guerrilla warfare, where you sneak across enemy lines, spend your money and then sneak back. High five.

Not that I'm 100% in avoiding them, but I do go pretty far out of my way to avoid them.
 

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I do not know where Jamey Johnson resides, nor do I know if he holds a Carry License from any state(s). Will he still stand on that principle when his upcoming concerts come up in very gun unfriendly states?

Some of his upcoming concerts include:
Sun, 7/30- Springfield, IL @ Bank of Springfield Plaza
Sat, 8/26- Atlantic City, NJ @ Music Box
Fri, 9/22- Verona, NY @ Turninv Stone Resort
Fri, 10/6- Santa Ynez, CA @ Chumash Casino Resort
 

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I do not know where Jamey Johnson resides, nor do I know if he holds a Carry License from any state(s). Will he still stand on that principle when his upcoming concerts come up in very gun unfriendly states?

Some of his upcoming concerts include:
Sun, 7/30- Springfield, IL @ Bank of Springfield Plaza
Sat, 8/26- Atlantic City, NJ @ Music Box
Fri, 9/22- Verona, NY @ Turninv Stone Resort
Fri, 10/6- Santa Ynez, CA @ Chumash Casino Resort
There is a difference between obeying state law and bowing to the whim of an employer or contractor. Also, unless his contract said no weapons he's on pretty solid ground. Still respect his decision. As for not carrying where it's illegal - support his compliance with the law, while still trying to get such non-2A consistent laws changed or overturned.
 

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There is a difference between obeying state law and bowing to the whim of an employer or contractor. Also, unless his contract said no weapons he's on pretty solid ground. Still respect his decision. As for not carrying where it's illegal - support his compliance with the law, while still trying to get such non-2A consistent laws changed or overturned.
I respect him for standing up for what he believes in in this instance. I do understand that difference, but he doesn't have to play a concert in states where people are not allowed to carry (presumably that would include him and his staff/ band). On principle, by having a concert there generates a lot of money for states and cities that don't recognize our right to self defense. I cannot speak for him, but isn't that along the lines of what MP is arguing? That we should stand on principle and not give anti-gun businesses (which do not carry fOL) any of our money? Should we forgo those principles and willingly conduct business in states (which do carry FOL) that do the same? He does not have to play in those states.
 

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Good.

I wish the people who posted here on GPDO were half as principled as Mr. Johnson. Too many of us actually support business policies like this. That is, they support such policies in the strongest possible way. They reward businesses with cash for violating our fundamental human right to self defense. It's one thing to post Rah, Rah, 2A! on the internet, but quite another to live your principles in real life.
I don't have the inclination to do a search, but don't you spend money at Waffle House?
 

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I respect him for standing up for what he believes in in this instance. I do understand that difference, but he doesn't have to play a concert in states where people are not allowed to carry (presumably that would include him and his staff/ band). On principle, by having a concert there generates a lot of money for states and cities that don't recognize our right to self defense. I cannot speak for him, but isn't that along the lines of what MP is arguing? That we should stand on principle and not give anti-gun businesses (which do not carry fOL) any of our money? Should we forgo those principles and willingly conduct business in states (which do carry FOL) that do the same? He does not have to play in those states.
You are, of course, entitled to you opinion. But, your opinion would mean that I can't visit many of my relatives because doing so generates income for that state/local government. Sorry, this isn't 1863.....yet.
 

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You are, of course, entitled to you opinion. But, your opinion would mean that I can't visit many of my relatives because doing so generates income for that state/local government. Sorry, this isn't 1863.....yet.
Thanks, but that's not necassarily my opinion. I don't claim to avoid all anti-gun businesses. Nor do I avoid all states with laws against carrying. But I also didn't applaud his stand on principle in one venue while he is willing to play in other areas with the same prohibition against firearms. I'm not sure, but I suspect his concert will have a much larger impact on the state and local economy than either yours or my visit. But in either case, the principle is the same. Don't be sorry. I know it's not 1863, and that's a good thing.
 

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Jamey Johnson is a throwback to another musical era. This is the kind of stuff HOB missed.

Here is the Highwaymen, singing "Highwayman", with Shooter Jennings filling in for his dad, and Jamey Johnson filling for Johnny Cash.


With Hank Williams, Jr. And Shooter, doing a tribute to Waylon:


Some more pretty good live covers:




 
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