Hell just froze over, HK to sell 416/417 to civies

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by CoolHand, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. CoolHand

    CoolHand Active Member

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  2. foshizzle

    foshizzle New Member

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    I'm sure it will be too expensive.

    They're a little late to the AR type piston game. Not very innovative, just the HK name.
     

  3. CoolHand

    CoolHand Active Member

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    Yeh, that HK koolaid doesn't taste good enough to get me excited about this.

    I'm gonna get a LWRC M6 or a Magpul Masada. They're American companies and they actually care about their customers. Magpul in particular has done some stuff that really impressed me in that respect.
     
  4. M249

    M249 New Member

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    Meh...I like my direct impingement. That ammonia smell let's me know I'm alive!

    Slight rant...

    I feel the AK47 is not as reliable without cleaning as it's near mythical reputation makes it out to be, nor do the feel the AR15 jams every time you sneeze on it unless you get it as clean as Intel's CPU Fab facility. I believe the gas piston AR is a solution looking for a problem. I've seen ARs push thousands of rounds between cleanings by simple squirting some CLP in/on the BCG. I am, however, glad that manufacturers are continuously looking for ways to improve the worlds greatest EBR*.

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  5. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

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    Crap...I read it :p
     
  6. Jmark

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    I will stick with the Masada. Made by an American Company that doesn't crap on the civilian market.
     
  7. cdtracing

    cdtracing New Member

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    Damn M249, did you get that disclaimer from your insurance policy?

    I think if I got to a gas piston I will either do POF of Aries Defense. Both are here in the US and cheaper.
     
  8. M249

    M249 New Member

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    That's just part of it... the whole thing is much, much bigger, and I try to be kind to our friends on dial-up :)
     
  9. MrMorden

    MrMorden New Member

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    screw HK, they have proven time and again they are no friend of the Second Amendment or civilian gun owners.
     
  10. phaed

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    now if they'd just make a civ version of the mp7 i'd be set.
     
  11. Jmark

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    Why would you want that? :?
     
  12. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, I want the proper version of the MP7.