HB 60 Exemption Retired Judges and Meat of HB 875

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  1. Rugerer

    Rugerer GeePeeDoHolic

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  2. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

    Ran across this in a piece and not sure I remember it from 2014:

    https://www.ncronline.org/news/parish/georgia-catholic-dioceses-ban-guns-knives-church-facilities

    Georgia Catholic dioceses ban guns, knives from church facilities


    Jul 8, 2014



     

  3. Phil1979

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    “I’m willing to give up what I think is right and my concept of weapons to make sure I protect the people I put under me,” said Eastman’s New Pleasant Hill Baptist Church, Pastor George Fluellen.

    He now wants to start allowing guns in church to keep folks safe. What took him so long?
     
  4. Taurus92

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  5. Taurus92

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    You can't have "gun-control" without "control". So, individuals shouldn't have control of their own destiny? The Pastor wants to control who gets to defend themselves.
     
  6. tmoore912

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    We have talked about this in the past, and iirc 16-11-127 does not give the House of Worship leader/leaders the ability to be so exclusive in deciding who gets to carry.

    "*(4)*In a place of worship, unless the governing body or authority of the place of worship permits the carrying of weapons or long guns by license holders;"
     
  7. Taurus92

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    Thanks, as it should be*. A lot of bad information going around from signs carry weight to getting to pick individuals who can defend themselves in church.
     
  8. TimBob

    TimBob Old, Slow, Boring Dude

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    Where is the "Like" button?
     
  9. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

    http://www.cbs46.com/story/36783655/metro-atlanta-pastors-discuss-security-at-churches


     
  10. Dawgdoc

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    I emailed the reporter on the 13WMAZ.com story. He emailed me back asking about more information. I referred him to GCO and this website's "laws in plain English." It looks like they have corrected the story. I pointed out to him that a single person (a Catholic Archbishop) can ban guns for hundreds of congregations.
     
  11. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

    http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-pastor-plan-to-add-more-security-after-texas-church-massacre

     
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  13. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

    http://www.syracuse.com/opinion/ind...church_be_open_and_welcome_to_all_commen.html

     
  14. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

    http://www.11alive.com/article/news...olence-while-remembering-its-own/85-490485122

    I've asked the reporter what that first sentence means.
     
  15. Savannah Dan

    Savannah Dan Cross-drawer

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    Catholic bishops and most priests are about as in touch with the realities of the world's dark side as politicians are with the realities of the lives of their constituents.
     
  16. Taurus92

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    The first sentence and last sentence illustrate a rather naive understanding of reality. If words on paper from political leaders worked, why do they need their own "law enforcement"? Or yet another law? Everything is already illegal. The words are already on paper, yet we still need enforcement. Because? Wait for it...
     
  17. TimBob

    TimBob Old, Slow, Boring Dude

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    More than likely he is a pacifist, so now he has to re-think that belief.
     
  18. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

    A church that allows “some” non-LEO citizens who are GWL licensees to carry will have taken the criminal law aspect of 16-11-127 off the table, and no GWL holder could be prosecuted.
    I don’t think the church can effectively give some people permission while denying it to other licensees.

    Not when it comes to that gun control law.

    But, the church could have an internal administrative policy that calls for sanctions and even removal from the building of any person who carries a weapon at church other than those specific individuals the church has granted permission to. This could lead to the church invoking the criminal trespass law if Bubba refuses to go lock his HiPoint in his car as requested by church staff, while another member of the congregation who is ex-LEO and a former IPSC champion shooter is allowed to carry his Series 70 Colt 1911 every Sunday.
     
  19. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

    http://www.henryherald.com/news/she...cle_636d756d-04c9-5dd2-8188-abda6c2cf2eb.html

     
  20. Phil1979

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    District Attorney Darius Pattillo's understanding of the law is correct.