HB 60 Exemption Retired Judges and Meat of HB 875

Discussion in 'Previous Bills' started by Malum Prohibitum, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. mountainpass

    mountainpass Under Scrutiny

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    Would this make a good vehicle to attach GWL holders to the list?
     

  2. HydroAuto

    HydroAuto GPDO Commonlaw Spouse

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    What makes retired judges special?
     
  3. CoffeeMate

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    "...if you get a permit then you don't need a permit... but if you don't have a permit then you need to get a permit..."

    Wait, what?


    If the point is to make fewer place off limits then the solution is to strike the off limits locations from statute.
     
  4. Re: HB 60 Expanding Exemption for Retired Judges 16-11-130


    The Nobility Clause in the Constitution. They are covered just like the clerks, medical examiners, staffs of select agencies, etc.

    Their lives are more valuable than yours. Sorry. Deal with it.
     
  5. HydroAuto

    HydroAuto GPDO Commonlaw Spouse

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    Well then, since you put it that way.
     
  6. RedLeg17

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    Yay more exemptions!

    They're not even enforcing the ones already on the books...... unless I was told incorrectly, Correctional Officers for the State of Georgia are forbidden by policy to carry off-duty on their credentials even though they're exempt from the requirement to get a GWL.
     
  7. RedDawnTheMusical

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    Because they were once a judge, that means that they are educated and, as such, are not subject to emotional whims or other poor decision making that could make them a threat to society.

    At least that is what I think the take-away is without applying any rational thought to it whatsoever.
     
  8. CoffeeMate

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    Yeah, I think it's probably more along the lines of potentially being in danger from retaliation as a result of their service to the State.

    You'll notice there's a definite pattern going on centering around being, or having been, an actor for the State. There isn't, for example, an exemption for victims of domestic abuse or defense attorneys.
     
  9. 70755

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    The irony is, those exempted by 160-11-130 and that are, for example, thus allowed to carry on school grounds or in a school building per Georgia law, would still be in violation of the ill conceived Federal GFSZ law unless they have a carry permit issued by the state. Even off duty police. Read the many hazards/pitfalls here, under legal effects:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Free_S ... ct_of_1990
     
  10. RedDawnTheMusical

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    Yup - I know plenty of LEOs that carry a GWCL to cover them for off duty situations.
     
  11. phantoms

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    But if you can't get them stricken, then getting all GWCL holders added to the list of those exempted is the next best thing.
     
  12. 45_Fan

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  13. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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  14. RedDawnTheMusical

    RedDawnTheMusical Well-Known Member

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    Sounds reasonable. Seconded.
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Passed committee. :|
     
  16. A. McClure

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    Didn't realize that this had been heard and passed in committee until I read your article. It has a sort of "all rights for me, none for thee" feel to it (and from your article, the members had zero problem with that view). Not a crusher, but certainly not welcome.
     
  17. SheriffOconee

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    of course, I am not on any committee, and no one has asked me, but I think getting the legislature used to giving exemptions and seeing there are no tragic consequences from doing so as a good strategic plan.....in that the argument can be made that "Well, we added W, we added Judges, we added X and nothing went wrong, why do you think adding Y and Z would lead to tragic consequences".....but that is just MY thinking...
     
  18. 45_Fan

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    They need to add cafeteria lunch ladies next. My :2cents: anyway.
     
  19. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Sheriff, you know that I respect you and your opinions, and while I do understand your reasoning, I have to disagree on this one. Watching the committee members, some of whom generally support GCO positions, set forth their reasoning on why retired judges (and police officers) are different than the great unwashed in the context of this bill and the HB 35 debate (same hearing) leads me to believe that the reality is different. The legislature giving out exemptions reinforces the notion that certain special people are entitled to be exempt from an otherwise bad law.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/one-gun ... bcommittee