Happy to be here!

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TheEngineer

Discussion Starter · Jul 29, 2017 (Edited)

My wife and I, with our three dogs, just completed our drive to Georgia from California. We have been planning our escape from California for several years; long story short - with some of the recent goings on in the People's Republic of Kalifornia we decided to accelerate our departure.

I was fortunate to be hired by a company out of Atlanta - I start work on Monday. My wife is keeping her job and will be working 100% remote from home.

We both shoot regularly - at this point I'm not sure who has more guns. When in CA I shot the monthly SDPS IDPA match at Sac Valley and am looking forward to getting out to South River to shoot the GADPA match.

We will be renting a place in Cumming while we figure out where we want to live long term. I hope to buy a place on at least 10 acres and put in a range where I can shoot 500+ yds while being around 1-1 1/2 hour drive from my office.

I will be applying for my GA GWL as soon as I am able to. In the meantime I am carrying via my CA CCW and Utah non-resident CFP. The way I understand it my CA permit will be invalid as soon as I acquire a GA drivers license, however my Utah permit will remain valid as long as I update my address with the Utah DPS. My Utah permit is for concealed carry, but my understanding of GA law is that there is no distinction between concealed and open carry if one can legally carry a firearm. If anyone is able to provide confirmation or clarification on this topic I would be grateful.

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UtiPossidetis

· #2 · Jul 29, 2017

Welcome to Georgia and Freedom. We're glad you escaped!

There are many here more up on the nuisances of the law for your out-of-state carry permits than I and I will defer to them on that.

On the issue of OC vs CC - you must have a WL to do either outside your home, vehicle, or place of business (if you are the proprietor) under most circumstances (some will point out the exceptions like hunting with a valid licensed,etc.). Remember that Corps of Engineer property (of which we have a great deal in these parts) is still off limits (as is the USPS) regardless of your carry status.

RedDawnTheMusical

· #3 · Jul 29, 2017

Welcome to freedom. I still remember my move here from New Jersey....

Phil1979

· #4 · Jul 29, 2017

Welcome to freedom! Well, at least more of it.

gungeek

· #5 · Jul 30, 2017

Welcome from a fellow escapee from The Golden State! You may find it takes a while to wash the funk off. The first year I started carrying, I felt like I was doing something wrong.

Where in CA are you from?

UtiPossidetis

· #6 · Jul 30, 2017

Oh, and forget your 10 round magazines......go crazy and get an 11 or 12 even!

TheEngineer

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 30, 2017 (Edited)

Thanks for the warm welcome

UtiPossidetis said:
On the issue of OC vs CC - you must have a WL to do either outside your home, vehicle, or place of business (if you are the proprietor) under most circumstances

Georgia recognizes both of my permits, so I know I'm good with concealed. I suppose the question is really: Am I bound to the regulations/laws of the issuing state or the state that I am carrying in, I.E. Georgia.

RedDawnTheMusical said:
Welcome to freedom. I still remember my move here from New Jersey....

gungeek said:
The first year I started carrying, I felt like I was doing something wrong.

Where in CA are you from?

I've been carrying for years. We lived in Sacramento County, the Sheriff there issues permits if you jump through all the hoops. Even with the permit I was constantly worried about losing my permit or being swatted for printing or if my shirt happened to ride up to far.

Lived in Sacramento County for 14 years, however I am originally from a rural part of Southern New Jersey and my wife is from the Chicago Illinois area.

UtiPossidetis said:
Oh, and forget your 10 round magazines......go crazy and get an 11 or 12 even!

Really looking forward to standard capacity mags and doing normal reloads on the rifles! I'll probably look like an idiot trying to relearn mag changes with a regular mag release. Also went shopping for suppressors already:grin:, though I will likely have to wait until we buy a house, priorities being what they are.

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jsaund22

· #8 · Jul 30, 2017

Welcome to Georgia!

TheEngineer said:
Georgia recognizes both of my permits, so I know I'm good with concealed. I suppose the question is really: Am I bound to the regulations/laws of the issuing state or the state that I am carrying in, I.E. Georgia.

You're bound by Georgia law, which means that as soon as you establish residency, your other permits are no good for carry in Georgia. Residents of Georgia cannot carry on another state's permits (at least that's the way I understand it).

But fear not - Georgia is a must-issue state, so you shouldn't have any trouble getting that permit. It just may take a couple of weeks to show up in your mailbox.

Phil1979

· #9 · Jul 30, 2017

OC here at your heart's desire. I do. You can even with a good out of state license.

gungeek

· #10 · Jul 30, 2017

TheEngineer said:
I've been carrying for years. We lived in Sacramento County, the Sheriff there issues permits if you jump through all the hoops. Even with the permit I was constantly worried about losing my permit or being swatted for printing or if my shirt happened to ride up to far.

Lived in Sacramento County for 14 years, however I am originally from a rural part of Southern New Jersey and my wife is from the Chicago Illinois area.

My wife and I grew up in the Bay Area. Never got a CA permit - couldn't show "good cause". We spent 13 years in Philly, and I was born in the Chicago area. Small world...

Craftsman

· #11 · Jul 30, 2017

Georgia does NOT recognize a California permit since California does not recognize Georgia permits. Georgia reciprocity rules are simple. You honor ours and we'll honor yours. Your Utah permit is fine, though. New law gives you 90 days from establishing residency (typically seen as getting a driver's license) to obtain a GWCL.

I suggest reading the web site section on Gun Laws (scroll back to the top). We only have 8 1/2 off limits places and we are getting better all the time. The North Atlanta area has numerous good gun shops and ranges, so you should have adequate places to practice.

If you intend on voting as the majority of the left coast does, I cordially invite you to return there. Otherwise, welcome to Georgia.

jsaund22

· #12 · Jul 30, 2017

Craftsman said:
New law gives you 90 days from establishing residency (typically seen as getting a driver's license) to obtain a GWCL.

I totally forgot about that...

TheEngineer

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jul 30, 2017

Craftsman said:
Georgia does NOT recognize a California permit since California does not recognize Georgia permits. Georgia reciprocity rules are simple. You honor ours and we'll honor yours. Your Utah permit is fine, though. New law gives you 90 days from establishing residency (typically seen as getting a driver's license) to obtain a GWCL.

I suggest reading the web site section on Gun Laws (scroll back to the top). We only have 8 1/2 off limits places and we are getting better all the time. The North Atlanta area has numerous good gun shops and ranges, so you should have adequate places to practice.

Thank you.

Craftsman said:
If you intend on voting as the majority of the left coast does, I cordially invite you to return there. Otherwise, welcome to Georgia.

You can mark us down in the "otherwise" column :righton:

StarJack

· #14 · Jul 30, 2017

TheEngineer said:
Thanks for the warm welcome
I've been carrying for years. We lived in Sacramento County, the Sheriff there issues permits if you jump through all the hoops. Even with the permit I was constantly worried about losing my permit or being swatted for printing or if my shirt happened to ride up to far.

Lived in Sacramento County for 14 years, however I am originally from a rural part of Southern New Jersey and my wife is from the Chicago Illinois area.

Crikey! :bigshock:

Congratulations! :applause:

Welcome to Georgia. :welcome:

Give due consideration to joining Georgia Carry as soon as possible. :cheers:

Nemo

· #15 · Jul 30, 2017

If you have any interest in getting national reciprocity on carry permits, click the link below. Add signature to the top link of BOTH you and she. Click and read the lower link below for info. Do in order you believe appropriate.

Questions PM me and I will explain or link you to places/persons who can give you the info you want.

Nemo

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...s-17-million-concealed-handgun-permit-holders

https://vcdl.org/Sign-The-White-House-Petition

TimBob

· #16 · Jul 30, 2017

Welcome to freedom!

Remember: we don't want to know the serial numbers of your guns... And you need to run out and buy many, many full capacity mags ASAP!

Finally: go to Georgiacarry.org and become members! And sign up for the convention before midnight Sunday!

GAfirearmsReference

· #17 · Jul 30, 2017

Welcome to Georgia !

Enough land to shoot 500 yards with a safe backstop on your own property is going to be expensive. Not "California" expensive, but still...

If one acre is about 44,000 square feet, keep in mind that a 300 foot wide and 1800 foot long rectangle of land would be 540,000 sq. ft.

That's about 12.25 acres.

For parcels of land about that size, you're probably looking at $20K per acre for raw land, no house.

So that's a quarter-million just for the dirt.

Add $150K if the property comes with a plain-Jane house on it.

But, if you can handle that, great.

Be sure to study rush hour traffic patterns in the ATL area.

Along some routes, being "an hour and a half away" from work could be as little as 20 miles !

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mark5019

· #18 · Jul 30, 2017

welcome to america

DonT

· #19 · Jul 30, 2017

Welcome to the free state of Georgia!

tmoore912

· #20 · Jul 30, 2017

OP, welcome to Georgia.

The new law that went into effect May 8th, 2017 was part of HB 292. It allows you to carry on your Utah license for 90 days while you establish residency in GA and wait for the GWCL to be issued.

The OCGA code sections have not been updated yet, so here is the new law that went into effect when the Governor signed it.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/Display/20172018/HB/292

" SECTION 4.

98 Said part is further amended by revising subsections (e) and (f) of Code Section 16-11-126,

99 relating to having or carrying handguns, long guns, or other weapons, license requirement,

100 exceptions for homes, motor vehicles, private property, and other locations and conditions,

101 as follows:

102 "(e)(1)(A) Any person licensed to carry a handgun or weapon in any other state whose

103 laws recognize and give effect to a license issued pursuant to this part shall be

104 authorized to carry a weapon in this state, but only while the licensee is not a resident

105 of this state; provided, however, that such licensee:

106 (i) Such licensee licensed to carry a weapon in any other state shall carry the weapon

107 in compliance with the laws of this state; and

108 (ii) No other state shall be required to recognize and give effect to a license issued

109 pursuant to this part that is held by a person who is younger than 21 years of age.

110 (B) The Attorney General shall create and maintain on the Department of Law's

111 website a list of states whose laws recognize and give effect to a license issued pursuant

112 to this part.

113 (2) Any person who is not a weapons carry license holder in this state and who is

114 licensed to carry a weapon in any other state whose laws recognize and give effect to a

115 license issued pursuant to this part shall be authorized to carry a weapon in this state for

116 90 days after he or she becomes a resident of this state; provided, however, that such

117 person shall carry the weapon in compliance with the laws of this state, shall as soon as

118 practicable submit a weapons carry license application as provided for under Code

119 Section 16-11-129, and shall remain licensed in such other state for the duration of time

120 that he or she is a resident of this state but not a weapons carry license holder in this state. "

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