[tmoore912]

What a worthless organization.

Gun violence restraining orders backed by ABA House of Delegates

http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...s_away_from_hate_crime_perpetrators_authorize

A measure addressing gun violence won approval from the ABA House of Delegates on Tuesday, despite some opposition by those who raised due process issues.

Resolution 118B urges state and local governments to enact laws and regulations authorizing courts to issue gun violence restraining orders, including ex parte orders that don't require the presence of the targeted person.

Those petitioning for a restraining order should provide documented evidence that a person poses a serious threat to himself or to others, according to the resolution. There should also be a verifiable procedure to ensure surrender of guns and ammunition pursuant to a restraining order, the resolution says.

The restraining order should be reported to appropriate state and federal databases so that a person subject to the order is unable to obtain a gun or gun license while the order is in effect, the resolution says.

 

[Taurus92]

Now why would the ABA be concerned with due process issues?

 

[gunsmoker]

Due process

Sometimes if the person accused of being dangerous isn't available to be invited to a full hearing, the "no guns order" should be issued anyway, to stop the person from buying a gun from any dealer or getting one out of the pawn shop.

But that should be a very rare exception to the general rule mandating due process PRIOR TO the citizen losing his rights.

 

[johnski]

ABA, wouldn't it be easier to just march people you dislike to a wall, line them up and shoot them?
Or perhaps place all the people who are not leftists like you into special 'camps'....

No due process required for these final solutions either.

 

[Phil1979]

You might be surprised how many of them would openly advocate for it, if they thought it would go their way. For now, they just wish for it secretly.

ABA, wouldn't it be easier to just march people you dislike to a wall, line them up and shoot them?
Or perhaps place all the people who are not leftists like you into special 'camps'....

No due process required for these final solutions either.

 

[moe mensale]

Estelle Rogers of the Section of Civil Rights and Social Justice spoke in favor of the resolution. “Gun violence restraining orders are a modest common-sense reform to address at least one piece†of the gun violence problem, she said.

It's very obvious where the ABA is heading. Where have we heard that term before?

 

[moe mensale]

ABA, wouldn't it be easier to just march people you dislike to a wall, line them up and shoot them?
Or perhaps place all the people who are not leftists like you into special 'camps'....

No due process required for these final solutions either.

What do you think prevents the ABA and all the rest of them from doing just that?

 

[moe mensale]

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."

Maybe Dick the Butcher was on to something. With apologies to some here.

 

[Gunstar1]

Anyone who is surprised by the ABA regarding this must have missed all their other anti gun positions.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Sometimes if the person accused of being dangerous isn't available to be invited to a full hearing, the "no guns order" should be issued anyway, to stop the person from buying a gun from any dealer or getting one out of the pawn shop.

But that should be a very rare exception to the general rule mandating due process PRIOR TO the citizen losing his rights.

I would hope that if the specter of this monstrous violation of a basic civil right, notice and opportunity to be heard, reared its ugly head in this State, this citizens thereof would wake from their idle slumber and rise up to fight it.

There are some foundational liberties we just do not do away with because of a current popular notion or fear.

Liberty is not always put to death by evil men of bad intentions greedy for power. Sometimes it is the do-gooders that strangle liberty until it breathes its last.

Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.

-- Daniel Webster​

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Gun violence restraining orders backed by ABA House of Delegates

http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...s_away_from_hate_crime_perpetrators_authorize

The Law Student Division also opposed the resolution because of concerns about ex parte orders, said delegate Rene Morency.

Maybe there is some hope with younger lawyers coming up through the ranks.

 

[GM404]

Maybe there is some hope with younger lawyers coming up through the ranks.

I can tell you, as a current law student, that this is NOT the general thoughts of the majority of the younger law student population I know. If you want your head to REALLY spin, spend a few minutes on the "Above The Law" blog/website.

 

[Scout706]

It's all this car/truck violence we need to address. \sarc

 

[johnski]

Easy there, that's starting to sound like Islamic Terrorist cultural appropriation!

 

[Clark]

Too bad they don't have car registration, that would clearly have stopped this entirely if only we know who owns the car. I'm thinking some kind of system where some kind of plate is attached to the vehicle to identify it to everyone.