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the last gun runners show in conyers we were told cant have guns in show then saw others with guns there so my question is this will it be same nonsense in farmers market this weekend
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In no way does this answer your question, but I was considering going to my first gun show (one in Commerce) in two weekends. It is a gun runners show, but I'm unsure what exactly happens... is it only people selling weapons, or perhaps manufacturer booths, or something else for all I know... I just need to decide whether to make the drive up or not haha.
For the record... On Sunday....

We carried with no issues or questions asked.... just the usual tie-wrapping.
As a matter of fact I was carrying my XDM40 in my ZooKeeper hand-carved holster... :righton:
Dawg said:
In no way does this answer your question, but I was considering going to my first gun show (one in Commerce) in two weekends. It is a gun runners show, but I'm unsure what exactly happens... is it only people selling weapons, or perhaps manufacturer booths, or something else for all I know... I just need to decide whether to make the drive up or not haha.
The shows are a mix... vendors selling guns, accessories (holsters, magazines, etc.), reloading
supplies and set-ups, assorted items (knives, tasers batons), individuals walking around selling
items from their personal collections, ammo and sometimes even home improvement (windows
and such) and jewelry....

Does that help :D

Oh yeah... almost forgot.... and.... GeorgiaCarry.Org's outstanding recruiting team !!!
BG_Atl said:
Does that help :D
Yeah that sounds awesome, definitely something worth checking out. And recruiting team huh!? I hope they are armed... with cool koozies and such. :lol:
BG_Atl said:
For the record... On Sunday....

We carried with no issues or questions asked.... just the usual tie-wrapping.
As a matter of fact I was carrying my XDM40 in my ZooKeeper hand-carved holster... :righton:
we carried because of tim parkers effort and calling the organizers who run the gun runners shows
mark5019 said:
BG_Atl said:
For the record... On Sunday....

We carried with no issues or questions asked.... just the usual tie-wrapping.
As a matter of fact I was carrying my XDM40 in my ZooKeeper hand-carved holster... :righton:
we carried because of tim parkers effort and calling the organizers who run the gun runners shows
Yup.... Tim looks after his volunteers :D
You should give all the details especially if it is like the Eastman and RK shows I go to.

As GCO Volunteers we carry our weapons BUT the rules state that you can NOT carry a loaded weapon into the shows. They must be ziptied at the door and you are required to leave your magazine or ammo in the car, you can not have loose ammo on your person. Personally I understand the rules and realize why they are there. I abide by them 100% but ain't no way I'm leaving my $1400 Dan Wesson CCO in the car where some low life jerk could steal it. Heck I like showing it off on ocassion as well so I'll hang it on my side in its Sharkskin Savannah holster and gloat every chance I get!
LoneOak said:
You should give all the details especially if it is like the Eastman and RK shows I go to.

As GCO Volunteers we carry our weapons BUT the rules state that you can NOT carry a loaded weapon into the shows. They must be ziptied at the door and you are required to leave your magazine or ammo in the car, you can not have loose ammo on your person. Personally I understand the rules and realize why they are there. I abide by them 100% but ain't no way I'm leaving my $1400 Dan Wesson CCO in the car where some low life jerk could steal it. Heck I like showing it off on ocassion as well so I'll hang it on my side in its Sharkskin Savannah holster and gloat every chance I get!
Exactly! :righton: Everyone at our GCO tables in Augusta carries "ziptied". Gunrunners is giving GeorgiaCarry.org free table space. They are, for the moment the "proprietors". We need to honor their rules, just as we honor state laws. I also will not leave my firearm in the car.
Dawg said:
BG_Atl said:
Does that help :D
Yeah that sounds awesome, definitely something worth checking out. And recruiting team huh!? I hope they are armed... with cool koozies and such. :lol:
Good Point guys....

Dawg... if you've never been to one of the gun shows... volunteering aside (just for a moment)
They do not allow anyone (other than LEO's) to carry loaded weapons into the show. Rather than leave
your gun in the car and risk having it stolen, you must drop the magazine and clear the chamber.
Leave the magazine and any other loose ammo in the car. Lock the slide back. When you get to the
door, their security will zip tie your gun and give it back to you and you can holster and carry it that way.
At the Conyers show, I talked to a couple of the LEO's there and some of the people at the table at the front door. They all said that it was not the people putting on the show, it was the people that owned the property where the show was being put on that put the condition of no carrying on.

Looks like it kinda fell apart on that stipulation huh?
Gunrunners' shows have the same rules as RK and Eastman in that you may carry your firearm on your person as long as you show it to them UNLOADED upon arrival and let them zip-tie it. Mr Eastman has also in the past required that vendors and volunteers working at tables during his shows keep their unloaded and zip-tied guns concealed. I'm not certain how strictly he is enforcing this policy today.

There was and may still be an exception to one venue where Gunrunners is promoting shows. They are telling me that the people who own the facility used for the gun shows in Conyers stipulate to Gunrunners that no weapons be carried at their show PERIOD. I have not followed up with them on this yet, but I'll notify GCO members and GPDO posters when I do.
GooberTim said:
Gunrunners' shows have the same rules as RK and Eastman in that you may carry your firearm on your person as long as you show it to them UNLOADED upon arrival and let them zip-tie it. Mr Eastman has also in the past required that vendors and volunteers working at tables during his shows keep their unloaded and zip-tied guns concealed. I'm not certain how strictly he is enforcing this policy today.

There was and may still be an exception to one venue where Gunrunners is promoting shows. They are telling me that the people who own the facility used for the gun shows in Conyers stipulate to Gunrunners that no weapons be carried at their show PERIOD. I have not followed up with them on this yet, but I'll notify GCO members and GPDO posters when I do.
This! Then too, if you are the third person at a GCO table, and at a Gunrunners show, you're probably going to be required to pay admission. Anyone working for me need only ask, and they'll be reimbursed for the admission fee. Gunrunners is very strict about the two person per table policy.
CountryGun said:
GooberTim said:
Gunrunners' shows have the same rules as RK and Eastman in that you may carry your firearm on your person as long as you show it to them UNLOADED upon arrival and let them zip-tie it. Mr Eastman has also in the past required that vendors and volunteers working at tables during his shows keep their unloaded and zip-tied guns concealed. I'm not certain how strictly he is enforcing this policy today.

There was and may still be an exception to one venue where Gunrunners is promoting shows. They are telling me that the people who own the facility used for the gun shows in Conyers stipulate to Gunrunners that no weapons be carried at their show PERIOD. I have not followed up with them on this yet, but I'll notify GCO members and GPDO posters when I do.
This! Then too, if you are the third person at a GCO table, and at a Gunrunners show, you're probably going to be required to pay admission. Anyone working for me need only ask, and they'll be reimbursed for the admission fee. Gunrunners is very strict about the two person per table policy.
RK is the same way (unless Bambi knows ya :wink: ). At Eastman shows, they used to hand out two free exhibitor badges at the start of the day. The first one to exit could return it to the entrance and they'd hand it to the next volunteer that showed up.
I arrived at the Fairgrounds in Albany today to set up for the Gunrunners show tomorrow. Walked in, everyone was nice. The Gunrunners people gave me a small form to fill out. While I was writing a man tapped me on the shoulder from behind and told me to take my gun back to my car. He then walked away (I noticed HE was carrying...). He seemed perturbed that I had brought it in to begin with... even though I was wearing my GCO golf shirt!

The lady behind the table then became very apologetic, explaining to me that it was a requirement of their insurance company. I told her I understood and asked if we could carry zip-tied tomorrow and she said yes.

The perturbed man finally warmed up to me later as I helped him move some tables!

BTW, GooberTim, the new sign looks great!
the last gun runners show in conyers we were told cant have guns in show then saw others with guns there so my question is this will it be same nonsense in farmers market this weekend
At the Conyers show, I talked to a couple of the LEO's there and some of the people at the table at the front door. They all said that it was not the people putting on the show, it was the people that owned the property where the show was being put on that put the condition of no carrying on.
The City of Conyers owns the Horse Park, and the City Police Chief does not want vendors carrying firearms (zip tied or otherwise) while working the show. He made an exception for the show promoter's hired security and LEO's. Keep in mind, Conyers is fairly new to the gun show scene. I know of at least one citizen who will be lobbying the Police Chief for a change in his policy.....but these things take time a patience.
Iceman said:
The City of Conyers owns the Horse Park, and the City Police Chief does not want vendors carrying firearms (zip tied or otherwise) while working the show. He made an exception for the show promoter's hired security and LEO's. Keep in mind, Conyers is fairly new to the gun show scene. I know of at least one citizen who will be lobbying the Police Chief for a change in his policy.....but these things take time a patience.
I may be wrong, but I don't believe the law allows him to do that. He needs to be shown a copy of state law, regarding city parks. Unless he can prove the building is a "government building", I think he's wrong.
CountryGun said:
Iceman said:
The City of Conyers owns the Horse Park, and the City Police Chief does not want vendors carrying firearms (zip tied or otherwise) while working the show. He made an exception for the show promoter's hired security and LEO's. Keep in mind, Conyers is fairly new to the gun show scene. I know of at least one citizen who will be lobbying the Police Chief for a change in his policy.....but these things take time a patience.
I may be wrong, but I don't believe the law allows him to do that. He needs to be shown a copy of state law, regarding city parks. Unless he can prove the building is a "government building", I think he's wrong.
If this is accurate, he is preempting Georgia law. :x

O.C.G.A. § 16-11-173
(b)(1) No county or municipal corporation, by zoning or by ordinance, resolution, or other enactment, shall regulate in any manner gun shows; the possession, ownership, transport, carrying, transfer, sale, purchase, licensing, or registration of firearms or components of firearms; firearms dealers; or dealers in firearms components.
GooberTim said:
CountryGun said:
Iceman said:
The City of Conyers owns the Horse Park, and the City Police Chief does not want vendors carrying firearms (zip tied or otherwise) while working the show. He made an exception for the show promoter's hired security and LEO's. Keep in mind, Conyers is fairly new to the gun show scene. I know of at least one citizen who will be lobbying the Police Chief for a change in his policy.....but these things take time a patience.
I may be wrong, but I don't believe the law allows him to do that. He needs to be shown a copy of state law, regarding city parks. Unless he can prove the building is a "government building", I think he's wrong.
If this is accurate, he is preempting Georgia law. :x

O.C.G.A. § 16-11-173
(b)(1) No county or municipal corporation, by zoning or by ordinance, resolution, or other enactment, shall regulate in any manner gun shows; the possession, ownership, transport, carrying, transfer, sale, purchase, licensing, or registration of firearms or components of firearms; firearms dealers; or dealers in firearms components.
Yep, that's in my arsenal of things to bring up once I get a face to face with the Chief. But, before I go running up my red flag I want to hear it from the Chief himself that it's his policy.....on the other side of the coin, he might might easily bow to the state law and just tell GunRunner they can't have another show at the Horse Park.....and I don't want that either.

Again, time and patience.

ETA: One of the things I need to look into is who runs the Horse Park....city or private enterprise. I know the city owns the property. In short there's a lot at play here, so I need to do my home work.
BG_Atl said:
Dawg... if you've never been to one of the gun shows... volunteering aside (just for a moment)
They do not allow anyone (other than LEO's) to carry loaded weapons into the show. Rather than leave
your gun in the car and risk having it stolen, you must drop the magazine and clear the chamber.
Leave the magazine and any other loose ammo in the car. Lock the slide back. When you get to the
door, their security will zip tie your gun and give it back to you and you can holster and carry it that way.
That's really good to know, I just got in the mail a "center of mass" car gun safe for ammo or my weapon. Depending on the rules of the function, I'll also be glad to know that I have the secure option of leaving it in my vehicle!
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