Gun Confiscation In NO - Can We Stop It???

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Mike from Philly, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. Mike from Philly

    Mike from Philly New Member

    According to this story in the NYTimes, the police and our military are conficating firearms.

    Here are the important excerpts:

    NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 8 - Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

    No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

    But that order apparently does not apply to hundreds of security guards hired by businesses and some wealthy individuals to protect property. The guards, employees of private security companies like Blackwater, openly carry M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said that he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.

    Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and the police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said.

    Could we file for an emergency injunction on behalf of the citizens of LA, GA responders in federal court?[/url]
  2. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    This would require an attorney admitted to practice in a federal court with jurisidiction in New Orleans, which is probably in New Orleans, which means that the federal court is not currently operating . . .

    It is very interesting that some neighborhoods were not flooded at all, have provided themselves with food, water, and armed security to protect themselves and their possessions, and yet they are going to be forced to evacuate, defenseless while they do it, probably watching the burglars swarming over their neighborhoods like a cloud of cockroaches as they leave . . .

    I wonder how committed is Edwin Compass III to enforcing his declaration? That is, will he shoot everybody who resists this order? What if 2,000 of the 10,000 citizens still in the city let it be known that they will not disarm in response to his "ordinance by fiat" ? Is he willing to go to war with 2,000 New Orleans citizens? For what?

    Is the public mood such as to tolerate the killing of lawfully armed civilians by police and National Guard troops?

    A few can be dispatched with the simple explanation that they were "looters" or "snipers" or something similar that nobody will be able to question given the current circumstances. But if a group were to announce beforehand their intention to resist such an unlawful order, after the fact explanations by the police will not suffice.

    The more likely result is that people will simply turn in whatever they have without too much of a fuss.

    I wonder why people too poor to hire armed security are not worthy of protection?

  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, there is also the issue of standing to overcome. Not just anybody can come in and challenge any government action just because they do not like it. The plaintiff must have standing to bring the claim. That would probably require somebody who is under a threat of being illegally disarmed.
  4. seajay

    seajay NRA Certified Instructor

    I'm sure we could find someone who had their firearms illegally seized to take this to court. I think not only the Govenor and Mayor should be held accountable but the entire chain of command the order traveled through. The individual police officers, gardsmen and troups who followed the orders should also be held personally accountable for following an illegal order. I am willing to contribute. We could even hold some kind of fund raiser event for this.